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Topic: E-F# on a knee lever also |
Larry Behm
From: Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 8:29 am
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A while back someone discussed putting that change on a knee. I had it during year (1) but took it off and have not had it for 40 years, not even pedal 3 for 40 years. No one in the crowd missed it, steelers who did not know me ever came up and said a word about it, the band and my wives were also not aware. Many steelers were shocked when I told them "no pedal 3".
Two years ago I got into a real old time country band, I put pedal three on and used it some, it was just not a major part of what I did. BUT as I thought about adding just string 4 to a knee the wheels began to turn. Oh so many little moves musically without having to move my foot. I still have pedal 3 for quicker moves but the knee lever change can be used on slower songs and can "cry" a lot more.
I also added back on string 9 (D note) I did not use it for years with the band I was in at the time. I took the Dan Tyack approach and moved the B to the 9th position and added an E on the bottom.
Oh I am mainstream country now.
Just a little thought for the day. Never be afraid to experiment, it is how we got here in the first place.
Larry Behm _________________ '70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2012 7:49 am
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To me, E to F# is essential for the country style of playing, whether it's on the C pedal, a lever, or both. I had it on my LKV for over two decades, sometimes with a C pedal, sometimes without. Now the equivalent change is LKV on my 8-string D6th which is my main gigging instrument, and I use the C pedal on my E9th guitar. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Paul Redmond
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 11:24 pm
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I have that on LKRfront on almost all my guitars. It also allows you to play Zane Beck splits when using your 2nd pedal. Plus, when you want to engage that raise when you already have your splits down, you don't have to lift up, jump over, and re-raise most of what you just released...that just wears out strings and tends to be clunky.
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Aaron Goldstein
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 7:16 am
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This is interesting, I never thought to move that change to a knee. But just thinking of the possibilities if it were, say, on LKR...could change a lot of things. Though I'd miss lowering my E's there. I've played a couple guitars where E's lower at RKL, and I know this is common, but I just couldn't get the hang of it.
However I'm most interested by your removal of the 9th string and adding an E to the bottom of the guitar! I guess maybe I've been ashamed to admit it but I find limited use for that 9th string, in fact I tune it to C# and get more use out of it that way.
However I'm prepared to be lectured on what I'm missing...fire away... _________________ Updates from the road on Twitter
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Herb Steiner
From: Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 7:39 am
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I have E-F# on my Legrande, but it's on Pedal 9. A foot pedal is much faster than a knee lever IMO. But I have to move my right foot off the volume pedal. Part of the cost of making Mooney.
Johnny Cox also has this change on a far-right pedal, as did Moon. _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 10:34 am
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Aaron Goldstein wrote: |
However I'm most interested by your removal of the 9th string and adding an E to the bottom of the guitar! I guess maybe I've been ashamed to admit it but I find limited use for that 9th string, in fact I tune it to C# and get more use out of it that way.
However I'm prepared to be lectured on what I'm missing...fire away... |
The 9th string as D is the bottom note for many jazz chords on the E9th. With pedals down, it is the single most useful position for a major 7th chord. For example, Gmaj7 at the 5th fret, strings 9 7 6B 5A.
Most people who don't have a D string either lower E to D or raise B to D to make up for it. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 5:38 pm
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I also had the E to F# on my 9th pedal as Herb did. I have never been good at getting off and on the volume pedal so I took it off. May give it another try someday.
I would NEVER give up my 9th string. Too useful. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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