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Jason Rumley
From: Foley, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 6:44 am
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This past weekend at the NE Iowa Steel Show I picked up a "stone bar" from the Mullen table. As soon as I got home I had to try it out and I was fairly surprised. I normally play with a 1" steel bar that's pretty hefty and I didn't realize how much it was slowing my playing down.
Not only that but the tone was amazing. It was a lot "thicker" sounding than I thought it would be.
Anyway, no real question to this post just some food for thought if anyone was else was curious about them. I think they're worth the $25 price tag. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." - Charlie Parker |
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Niels Andrews
From: Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 8:11 am
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OK where do you get them? _________________ Die with Memories. Not Dreams.
Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 9:01 am Does that mean?????????????
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Are you now known as a 'porcelain guitar player'? |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 9:14 am
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Steel Walls and Stone Bars and ewe on my mind? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Peter den Hartogh
From: Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 9:27 am
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My Paloma Stone slide just arrived, and I agree, the sound is different. And so is the feel...much lighter.
When I use it on a lap steel and force more sustain by using vibrato on any unwound string, the sound gradually changes to one octave higher whilst moving the bar doing the vibrato. Nice surprise.
Sometimes, for some reason, the sliding action can be a bit gritty. Maybe I need to wipe it more often.
Great bar anyway.
Get one here:
www.stoneslides.com |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 2:41 pm
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The sound should be different, somewhat warmer, but the tradeoff (as with all lighter bars) is that the sustain will be reduced, somewhat. |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 6:02 am
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Sometimes, for some reason, the sliding action can be a bit gritty. Maybe I need to wipe it more often. |
That's usually the downside of porcelain or ceramic bars, and also why I do not like a zirconia bar. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 7:22 am
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There is nothing "gritty" about a zirconia bar.
It is the smoothest bar around not like glass or porcelain. |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 2:43 pm
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There is nothing "gritty" about a zirconia bar.
It is the smoothest bar around not like glass or porcelain. |
Anyway, not to argue, but mine was not suitable for me.
IMHO, I've always likened ceramic or stone bars to a warmer tone, however less sustain. I did not like the drag of the zirc however. |
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Gary Sill
From: Mt. Zion, IL, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 8:28 pm Thanks Jason for your post
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I sold you that bar since I had the Sill Music Supply both at the Waterloo show.
Thanks for enjoying the bar and liking it. They are great bars and give you a neat, different sound that we find about all the steel players enjoy.
Bars are individual and some people don't like a 1" bar, a chrome, steel, white, black bar. So that is why each bar sold doesn't fit all others.
The thing about this bar it opens up your options and gives you something that you can not get with others.
It is very light and makes you play faster, it seems.
Gary Sill 217-433-7455 _________________ A beautiful Laquer Mullen G2, 2 Nashville 112's, Evans 10" R150 Amp,1982 Emmons Push Pull D-10, Hilton Pedals, 12/8 MSA Superslide, Green LDG, S-6 Fender 1956 Lap. , Gretsch Country Gentleman, red Gibson 2019, ES 335, Quilter, Gretsch Resonator, Eastman Mandol |
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Gary Sill
From: Mt. Zion, IL, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2012 8:29 pm Thanks Jason for your post
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I sold you that bar since I had the Sill Music Supply both at the Waterloo show.
Thanks for enjoying the bar and liking it. They are great bars and give you a neat, different sound that we find about all the steel players enjoy.
Bars are individual and some people don't like a 1" bar, a chrome, steel, white, black bar. So that is why each bar sold doesn't fit all others.
The thing about this bar it opens up your options and gives you something that you can not get with others.
It is very light and makes you play faster, it seems.
Gary Sill 217-433-7455 _________________ A beautiful Laquer Mullen G2, 2 Nashville 112's, Evans 10" R150 Amp,1982 Emmons Push Pull D-10, Hilton Pedals, 12/8 MSA Superslide, Green LDG, S-6 Fender 1956 Lap. , Gretsch Country Gentleman, red Gibson 2019, ES 335, Quilter, Gretsch Resonator, Eastman Mandol |
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Jason Rumley
From: Foley, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 7:24 am
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Actually Gary, I think your wife was tending the table at the time! It's a good bar though, I find it helps me play just a touch faster. The only thing I have to get used to is keep it on the strings since I'm not used to putting much "down pressure" with the heavier bars. It's great though! _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." - Charlie Parker |
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Jay Seibert
From: Woodland, WA, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2012 1:41 pm Re: Does that mean?????????????
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Ray Montee wrote: |
Are you now known as a 'porcelain guitar player'? |
Actually... that would make you a "stone guitar player".
And for the record, Paloma tone bars are made out of high-fire stoneware clay... not porcelain! Stoneware is denser, has more sustain, is stronger, and is fired quite a bit higher in temperature. _________________ www.stoneslides.com is my Paloma Tone Bar and Bottleneck Slide web site
www.clayrabbit.com is my Pottery web site |
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