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Topic: Single Coil or Humbucker- pickup . |
James Taylor
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United Kingdom
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 1:57 am |
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| HI, What are the benefits of either single coil or humbucker on pedal steel?Has one a mellow tone and the other a harsher sound and what is a modern steel sound compared to an older one; does these produce such differences? YOURS AYE JAMES TAYLOR SCOTLAND |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 3:24 am
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Less feedback and hum with the humbucker with loss of tone as a consequence.
Better tone with the single coil but you have to deal with feedback and hum.
I would think the new noiseless pickups would be a good compromise. I don't know if they even make them for Steel. |
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Steve Lipsey
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 5:23 am
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Telonics amd Tonealigner are two of those...sound of its own, but has the high end sparkle of a single coil and the low end and hum resistance of a humbucker
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 5:37 am
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The Lawrence pickups are humbuckers but there is no loss of tone.
Consider the highly regarded pedal steel player Paul Franklin uses Lawrence pickups on his guitars. Many would "kill" for Paul's sound.
The last time I saw Bobbe Seymour's Push Pull Emmons it had Lawrence 705 (correction) pickups on it.
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 8:03 am
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
The Lawrence pickups are humbuckers but there is no loss of tone.
Consider the highly regarded pedal steel player Paul Franklin uses Lawrence pickups on his guitars. Many would "kill" for Paul's sound.
The last time I saw Bobbe Seymour's Push Pull Emmons it had Lawrence 510 pickups on it. |
Jack
Every time I have seen Bobbe's personal black push pull, it has had the same Lawrence 705 chrome surround pick-ups mounted. Bobbe has told me repeatedly over the years that they have the clarity and noise repelling qualities that he needs for recording. I have a pair of NOS older type 705's that will go into my push pull when I get time to install them.
Likewise, when I saw Paul F last year, he had 705's on his Franklin guitar, and it sounded sweet.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 8:37 am
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Ken, I meant to say 705's. My 81 Franklin came with 705's and I changed to 710's The 710's didn't change the Franklin sound, just seemed to be a little more "spacing" or "definition" between strings.
Paul Franklin, Sr, told me several years ago, that Paul has some guitars with 705's and some with 710's but you cannot hear the difference in his sound.
I had a 71 PP Emmons (Black of course)with the stock single coil Emmons pickups. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 12:39 pm
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| I prefer single coils. To my ears, they have a sweeter-sounding high end. |
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Gary Dunn
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near Camel City, NC
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 5:05 pm
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| I prefer single coils. To my ears, they have a sweeter-sounding high end. |
Agreed... |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 6:45 pm
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And a crisper attack. 'buckers have less Honky-tonk attitude (Buck, Stones, Dwight, doesn't matter).
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2012 10:34 pm
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I love single coils, but I have original 705s in everything that I gig.
I think that the 705 gets closest to a single coil sound of all the humbuckers out there.... and I think that I have tried 'em all. |
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Quentin Hickey
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 10:38 am
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| I am sorry to get off track with this thread but can anyone tell me from theire own experience, are the new reissued 705 pickups manufactured exactly the same as the old ones and do the sound exactly the same as the old ones. I am thinking about buying a few and trying them out. The originals are few and far between. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 23 Oct 2012 11:28 am
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The new 705's and the old ones are not exactly the same.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 28 Oct 2012 6:20 am
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MSA Legend... And you can have them all.
I have an Alumitone and and two differently wound Truetones.
If need be I put the Alumitone in and I have to say that in a live setting I forget pretty fast what pick up I have in the guitar. For an early 60`s sound, the underwound Truetone can`t be beat, though.
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Jim Bates
From:
Alvin, Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 9:08 am
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I you play a lot of gigs in different places, go with humbuckers, because there WILL be a place with bad wiring, light dimmers, fan speed controllers, older neon lights that will ruin your sound.
If you only play in your home studio, and there is none of the above problems, then go with single coils.
Thanx,
Jim |
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Stephen Cowell
From:
Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 10:49 am
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Can you get Truetones RWRP?
Perhaps all you have to do is connect them reversed....
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 10:54 am
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RWRP?
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Stephen Cowell
From:
Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 11:28 am
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Reverse-wound, reverse-polarity... for humbucking, only a consideration if the pickups are on the same neck.
The Stringmaster has RWRP pickups.
If you connect your single-coils out of phase you should get some noise-canceling in the middle position... Since they're on separate necks the magnetic polarity is not a concern.
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James Taylor
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 31 Oct 2012 9:59 am pickups
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Hi, Thank you all so much for the information you have given me on this subject. It has been a real education in the understanding of the electronic world of this very fine instrument. Every best wish,  YOURS AYE JIM TAYLOR SCOTLAND .[img] [/img] |
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