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Topic: Tuning problems... |
Kjell Ohlsson
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 4:24 am |
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Today I changed from SIT strings to Jagwire LLoyd Green on my Emmons D10 and they sound beautyful, if it isn´t for the 6th string.
I use my Strobo Flip, SE09, and tune my open 6th string to a wonderful G#, in my ear that is! Pressing both A & B pedal doesn´t sound that good. On the 6th string I get a A flat and I have to turn my wrench a lot, clockwise, to get a proper A on the 6th string. Releasing the B pedal brings me a G# sharp, very sharp. Tuning the open string again to G# and pressing B pedal gíves me a A flat, once again. Since I am not a mechanic or brought up with technical skills I just can´t find out what´s wrong. I am a little bit afraid of tearing my guitar apart. 6th string´s the same gauge as before. It doesn´t happen on the 5th string or 3 rd, only on the 6th. I hope some one out there can come up with some solution.
//Kjell
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Black Emmons L LGII D10 9+6,BOSS RV3, TubeFex, Fender Steel King, Hilton & Goodrich vol.ped, Fender 60th Anniversary Telecaster, Fender Twin Reverb 65 ReIssue, Volvo V70, |
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Jerry Overstreet
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 4:43 am
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Have you substituted a wound string where once you used a plain one? Lloyd uses a 22 wound string as I recall. If so, your pedal will require more travel adjustment.
If that's the case, you can just put a plain string back on the 6th and you should be good. That is the first thing you should check.
If the original was wound as well, then there are a couple things to do.
Detune the nylon tuner so that it isn't affected by the pedal. Tune open note with the tuning key. Tune pedaled noted A. If the resultant open note, G# is still way sharp, then you need more travel in the pedal linkage.
My guess is that you have a wound string now where you had a plain one before. [22W versus 22P.] There shouldn't be a major difference among brands to cause this condition.
Last edited by Jerry Overstreet on 1 Sep 2012 5:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Kjell Ohlsson
From:
Mora, Dalecarlia, Sweden
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 4:59 am
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Yes Jerry, you are right. I had a 0.022P from SIT before, I checked that out. Now Jagwire is 0.022W and I will continue with LLoyd Green strings.
I will try to give my pedal more space or travel.
I think I know how to do that!
Thanks a lot Jerry!
//Kjell
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Black Emmons L LGII D10 9+6,BOSS RV3, TubeFex, Fender Steel King, Hilton & Goodrich vol.ped, Fender 60th Anniversary Telecaster, Fender Twin Reverb 65 ReIssue, Volvo V70, |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 5:06 am
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Glad you found the problem. If you're intent on using the wound and opening up the travel, remember that the 3rd string will be affected as well when you add more travel. So it will require some tuning adjustment too.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if you lower your 6th string a whole tone to F# on that Emmons, the wound string might have a problem making the change.
Going to a wound string from a plain one at the 6th string requires quite a bit of tweaking.
Many players enjoy the sweeter sound of the wound, but I would venture a guess that most Emmons players prefer the plain.
Good luck with the adjustments. |
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Kjell Ohlsson
From:
Mora, Dalecarlia, Sweden
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 5:36 am
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I think I´ve solved it!
I moved the pullrod for 6th string 1 level down on bell crank, towards floor, and so I had my G# and A. I don´t know if this was a proper way of solving the problem but it did work!
Thanks once again, Jerry
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Black Emmons L LGII D10 9+6,BOSS RV3, TubeFex, Fender Steel King, Hilton & Goodrich vol.ped, Fender 60th Anniversary Telecaster, Fender Twin Reverb 65 ReIssue, Volvo V70, |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 1 Sep 2012 8:22 am
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 That's great. Glad you could gain enough travel there. That way, the 3rd string will not be affected except for maybe a bit of timing of the 2 strings. |
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