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Topic: Instrument finishes and chemical reactions |
Gary Ackley
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2012 8:02 pm |
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I have some old guitar stands on which the surgical rubber tubing is hard and brittle.
What materials can I use to replace the old tubing which will not react and damage finishes?
PVC foam insulation?
New surgical tubing?
Where can I buy the tubing?
Better ideas?
Thanks,
Gary |
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 23 Jun 2012 8:28 pm
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Gary If you find the right thing let me know.I tried a kit from a music store and as soon as I started to use it I noticed it got sticky so I stoped using it right away. I asked at the store as this was my old favorite Martin and they said they had trouble with some of the older finishes and wouldnt recommend any thing so I didnt take the chance of using it and causing any damage.
Keith |
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 23 Jun 2012 10:13 pm
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Jun 2012 5:43 am
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If I had concerns, I'd just cut the fingers off jersey gloves for the upper bits.
For the lower ones, well, my ex-wife taught me to sew.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 24 Jun 2012 9:16 am
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I used the clear tubing to which Hook refers on this one probably 15 yrs. ago. I picked it up at a hardware store. I guess you can still buy it in this size. It's probably 5/16 or 3/8", not sure.
This doesn't have the grip of surgical tubing though. At the time, I couldn't find any of the surgical stuff. I like it a little better than the clear stuff for grip, but given the short life I'm happy with this. Shows no signs of cracking or deteriorating. It won't get gummy and mess up your finish like that surgical stuff.
You can check medical supply houses/online stores for the surgical tubing. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2012 11:00 am
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| A medical supply store will have surgical tubing. The stores are easy to find as they sell everything, canes, walkers, all sorts of supplies. Also some pharmacies carry the tubing too. My favorite is the foam insulation for water pipes, covered with a baby sock! |
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Gary Ackley
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Freddie Wooton
From:
London, ky
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Posted 24 Jun 2012 10:18 pm
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| You shouldn't let an instrument finished in Nitro stay in contact with any kind of plastic for a very long time. Leather or rubber seems to be okay.Urethane finishes don't seem to be affected by any thing other than a grinder. Plastics usually contain acrylics and it reacts to nitro. I ruined a couple of nice guitars back in my younger days by not knowing any better. It softens the finish, makes it gummy. |
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Glenn Uhler
From:
Trenton, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 25 Jun 2012 6:46 pm Plastic and lacquer finishes
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Plastics, especially PVC and flexible plastic tubing contain "plasticizers". That's what makes them flexible. In contact with any other plastic or polymer compound (like lacquer), the plasticizer will migrate (bleed into) the other surface. That's why you get the soft spots. The lacquer is there; it's just "softer". Vinyl tubing is the worst, tan surgical tubing is not as bad, but natural cork is probably the best.
Get some of the natural cork they put on fishing rods and glue it on the parts of the stand that touch the guitar.
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Gary Ackley
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2012 7:34 pm Guitar stand cushion material
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I ended up using surgical tubing. 1/4" inside diameter from Ace hardware.
$4 per foot. Used 2 feet on each stand.
I found some good cork ideas, used rubber due shipping costs, minimum quantity,
and difficulties of attaching cork to metal.
Tubing was difficult to install until I figured out the secret -
Vaseline petroleum jelly, and lots of it.
Contact me if you need details. |
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Ray Anderson
From:
Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2012 8:09 pm
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Hair Drier or Heat gun.  Even Hot water will work. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 10 Aug 2012 8:17 pm
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Pipe insulation.
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Glenn Uhler
From:
Trenton, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2012 8:34 pm Pipe Insulation>
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That pipe insulation has lots of plasticizer in it, too, Chappy. If your guitar is only on the stand for one gig at a time, it will probably be OK. If you leave your guitar on the stand at home for days, you will see marks eventually.
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2012 9:47 pm
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Maybe flock it?
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Howard Steinberg
From:
St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2012 4:36 am
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It has probably been mentioned that the yelow tubing will literally melt the finish on an instrument having a nitrocellulose finish. A very easy and inexpensive fix is to buy a sheet of self sticking felt and cover the tubing with it. You should be able to find this at any fabric store.
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Justice Pro Lite (4-5), Justice D-10 (8-5)x2 , Quilter Steelaire, Hilton Pedal, BJ's bar. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 12 Aug 2012 9:05 am
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chris l.
my sentiments exactly! |
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Tony Williamson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2012 9:15 am
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put it in the case. i have always felt uneasy about putting my $4000 instruments on a stand. if its not around my neck, it goes in its case.
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stelling banjos . shobud ldg and superpro/ martin hd28v weber mandolin, session 400, danelectro delay, korg d3200, bose L1 x2 |
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