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Tim Marcus


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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2012 1:25 pm    
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http://www.neutrik.us/en-us/news/the-new-timbreplug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qYvw9J6BhY

looks interesting - not sure what its guts are

$25 from Mouser

might be kind of useful for when you use a single amp for telecaster and steel and want to tame the treble on the steel but have the tele remain bright

my guess is that its doing some sort of impedance matching
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2012 2:13 pm    
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Interesting. There are times with my PSG that I would like to mellow out the sound on some songs and have the treble scream on others. This may fill the bill.
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Chris Reesor

 

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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2012 3:09 pm     Timbreplug
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By the freq response graph, I'd guess it is switching in shunt capacitance in three stages. Note how the response peak shifts to a lower frequency with an increasing rolloff above the peak.
Could be useful.
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Tim Marcus


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Post  Posted 18 Jul 2012 3:34 pm    
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it's too bad the response graph is not labeled - it just says impedance vs frequency but there are no numbers associated with either - there is no scale factor, no called out frequencies, no called out impedances... we really have no idea what the thing is doing based on that graph - but I agree it does sound capacitance based.
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Ken Metcalf


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 4:34 am    
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This is interesting...
Some times I use my tone knob on my Emmons with a Tele into one amp.
Does not seem to suck tone for me out of a tube amp.
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 5:34 am    
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Looking at the graph, there are no frequency parameters shown, but it suggests there is only a small shift on the 3 settings.
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Jerry Erickson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 5:41 am    
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Available at Mouser for $24.49!

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NP2RX-TIMBRE/?qs=Lvf1VvbKXlg2hToG2GaJd26%2fSfIXv11GbZnla%2feD1fo%3d
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Ray Minich

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 6:23 am    
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Probably safe to assume that graph is logarithmic on X axis (abscissa). Vertical line above F in Frequency is 1000. First logarithmic cycle is 0 to 1K cps, 2nd cycle 1K to 10K cps, 3rd cycle to 30K cps. Then unattentuated midpoint would be about 5K cps with attenuation driving midpoint increasingly to the left to between 4K and then to 3K cps.

I use cps instead of Hertz (Hz). Old habits die hard.
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Peter Harris

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 3:27 am    
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...speaking with a friend about this, a similarity was brought up with the old PRS "Sweet Switch".....



and...

"I use cps instead of Hertz (Hz)"


....yeah, but they don't have an office at the airport... Rolling Eyes
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 11:15 am    
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I suppose that if you had a guitar and amp with no tone controls, or no mid shift a steel amp, it might be useful. Confused
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 3:24 pm    
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I suppose that if you had a guitar and amp with no tone controls, or no mid shift a steel amp, it might be useful

Or. if you didn't want to get up and walk back to your amp to change those controls for a song, play the song, then get back up, walk back to your amp, reset the tone controls, walk back to your seat, sit down and play the next. Oh darn, the band wants to play a song that I want the mellower tone on again. Sheesh, now I have to get up........ I think you get the picture. Not everyone uses a rack setup where the controls are next to them when they play.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 5:27 pm    
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I thought we all put a Hernia 500 in our ear, within reach.
Have I been doing it wrong?
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:37 pm    
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Richard Sinkler wrote:
Or. if you didn't want to get up and walk back to your amp to change those controls for a song, play the song, then get back up, walk back to your amp, reset the tone controls, walk back to your seat, sit down and play the next. Oh darn, the band wants to play a song that I want the mellower tone on again. Sheesh, now I have to get up........ I think you get the picture. Not everyone uses a rack setup where the controls are next to them when they play.


No racks for me, I'm strictly a combo amp guy! Mr. Green Still, even when we're playing on a 30x60 foot stage, my amp is withing reach. I don't know...I just have mixed emotions about this stuff. It's deja vu all over again, folks, sorta like back when everyone did the "lemmings-rush" from single coils to humbuckers, and now the rush is in the other direction, back to single coils. Question So, let's see...you can pay ridiculous money, and get a cord that doesn't color the sound - or you can pay even more ridiculous money and get one that's made to color the sound?! Muttering

I guess I'm the only one that sees the futility and humor in all this. Crying or Very sad

Here we go chasing a sound again,
sound again,
sound again.

Here we go chasing a sound again,
let's go and spend some money.

Laughing
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:50 pm    
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One guy on the forum (don't recall who, too lazy to look it up) had a friend in the music store business, who said "90% of tone is in the hands. the other ten keeps our doors open."
I think if I wanted capacitive tone trim capabilities, a tone knob would work beyyer
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:58 pm    
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I'd have to try it first, but I believe this would be good for a steel guitar that doesn't have a tone control. One of mine does, the other doesn't. Whole lot cheaper and easier than installing a tone control on a steel that didn't come with one.

Some of us play a wide range of music. Timbre controls can be a bonus for specific tunes, styles and when used with other fx.

You don't have to buy it if you don't want it, but it's nice to know it's available for those who do.

Thx. for the heads-up Tim.
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Tim Marcus


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 7:26 pm    
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Lane Gray wrote:
One guy on the forum


it was Josh Yenne
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