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Topic: 0 pedal changes? |
Larry Behm
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Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 23 May 2012 2:38 pm |
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What do you have on your 0 pedal and why?
Larry Behm
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 23 May 2012 4:33 pm
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Hi Larry:
I have 2 guitars set up with the 0 pedal that moves the 3rd & 6th string G# to G.
For example, you can get a C at the 3rd fret with A&B pedals and C7th with
0 and pedal 1. You can also get a G minor with just the 0 pedal at fret 3.
Pretty cool change that Joe Wright uses. The only thing is, when you go to a guitar that does not have the 0 pedal your brain has to adjust a bit.
Regards,
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 23 May 2012 5:31 pm
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Used to be the Franklin pedal. Found I was never using it so, right now I raise string 9 from D to E and string 7 from F# to G#. Gives fat strummable chords for rhythm work. Of course, not using it much either.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 23 May 2012 6:35 pm
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I put my 1st and 2nd string raise there on my Zum. On my Uni, I put the Bb6 analog, 1st string to Eb and 3rd string to G. Since I was following Advice from one of the builders on the forum to start on the 1st string, it was the first completed change on the guitar.
And, since you asked why, when I decided I wanted the change, I decided against a cluster, so I moved A, B, and C down one
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Bill Moran
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 23 May 2012 6:35 pm
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I tried that on a Carter guitar. I couldn't get use to my A+B moved in tighter to me. Long legg's, I guess. Anyway you can move back two frets about as easy.
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Peter Nylund
From:
Finland
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Posted 24 May 2012 4:50 am
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Lower string 3 from G# to G, raise string 6 from G# to B and raise string 9 from D to E.
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From:
Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 24 May 2012 5:11 am
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Very particular to my set up: I raise 10 a whole step (B-C#) and 6 a half step (G#-A); sort of a semi A+B change. I do this because I lower ten a whole-step (B-A) on my A pedal and hate giving up the normal A+B change with 10th string grips. It's pretty redundant, but this is the price I pay for having an unusual A pedal change. I did have the 1st and 2nd string raise on the 0 pedal, and it would be a better change there if I had a standard Emmons set up on E9.
Now as to why I lower 10 on A: great for swing, rock, and a variety of other things. I couldn't live without this change at this point.
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
From:
Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 24 May 2012 8:14 am
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I've only had two guitars upon which I had a "0" pedal. The first was a 1977 MSA Classic XL (10 floor pedals & 10 knee levers) and back in 1977 and 1978 I was using that "0" pedal to lower strings 5, 6 and 10 a whole tone. I found it to be a really cool change, but also found that I became sort of "addicted to it" and began using it to the point that it was just way too much.
When I removed three of my knee levers to lighten up the guitar just a little, I also removed that 5/6/10 lower and replaced it with simply lowering my second string a whole tone (and used a knee lever to lower the second string a half tone). It solved my issue with overshooting the half stop on my second string lower (on that MSA, I could never get my half stop to feel positive enough to not overshoot it when trying to lower a half tone on that string).
On my next guitar (a D-10 with 10 & 7 that I built while working with Jim Boen), I kept my "0" pedal as a second string whole tone lower.
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Frank Montmarquet
From:
The North Coast, New York, USA
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Posted 24 May 2012 8:25 am
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The Sierra U-12 I just purchased has 3 & 6 G# lowered to G on the "0" Pedal.
Don't know yet if I will leave it that way. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Keith Davidson
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 25 May 2012 11:49 am
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I see a lot of you are lowering your G# to G on the 3rd and 6th strings.
Could you please explain the advantages of that chord and scale wise?
I'm in the process of making a change to the 0 pedal as we speak - hopefully tonight if all goes well.
And also the advantages of the 1st and 2nd string raises/lowers.
Just not experienced enough to get a good grasp on what changes to make.
Many thanks in advance.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 12:46 pm
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The G# to G gives you an Em chord. Combining it with the B to C# raise makes an A7 chord. These are the most obvious things you can do with it.
The D# to C# lower is virtually a standard knee lever, as is the low D to C#. I put them on a pedal because I like to use them with my E's lowered, and all of my other knee levers are taken.
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Keith Davidson
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 25 May 2012 3:32 pm
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| Thanks for the reply Bob. Didn't mean to hijack this thread, was just curious and thought it might not hurt to ask. |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 27 May 2012 3:31 am
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I have two BMI S-12's at the moment. On my main one my "zero" pedal lowers the 3rd string G# to G and raises the 7th string F# to G#. It's more or less thought of as two different functions as the 3rd string lower is used for some Mooney things and the 7th string raise is for the Brumley stuff. Tom had that raise and used it a lot. When your E's are lowered it gives you the same move as when you're using the A pedal in the open tuning (raising the 5th to a 6th)... My other BMI has the 3rd and 6th string G# strings lowered to G on the zero pedal for mainly the IV7 change but it can also be used in a diminished run with the A pedal. Also with the E's lowered it'll give you an augmented (#5) position.....JH in Va.
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Bas Kapitein
From:
Holland
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 28 May 2012 8:05 am
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Cowboy Eddie Long's 6th string raise to A# is pretty cool. I remember that Winnie Winston had that change on pedal 4, and I copied it when I got my first S-12 E9th. There are a lot of nice licks that that pedal.
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 28 May 2012 9:35 am
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| b0b wrote: |
| ... 6th string raise to A# is pretty cool. I remember that Winnie Winston had that change on pedal 4, and I copied it when I got my first S-12 E9th. |
When I got my first S-12 E9 30 years ago, it had just 3 pedals, set up as ABC. I asked my self what can I do with that useless C pedal, and it was so easy to move the whole step raises from strings 4 and 5 to strings 5 and 6. Moving it to pedal 0, where the raise to C# is already there on the A pedal, came later. |
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