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BobG

 

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Holmdel, NJ
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 11:05 am    
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Man!...I've been wrestling with this thing for the last 5 gigs and i gotta tell ya .. it's wearing me out..I'm trying to run a steel,acoustic guitar and mandolin thru it.. I've got 3 steel programs and a program for the acoustic and another for the mandolin..
My problem is I cant seem to send a strong enough signal to the board.. Yesterday I had the output and the channel volume turned up full blast and barely had enough signal.. I'm also going through the back of my Peavey 1000 as a stage monitor.. I had the master volume turned up full tilt and could barely hear myself on stage..
My question is ...Is there another way to turn up the output volume on a POD XT that I might be missing? I'm beginning to get frustrated but really dont want to give up on it yet..

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Bob Grado, Williams D10 (lefty), Peavey 1000,
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BobG

 

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Holmdel, NJ
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 11:10 am    
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I dont know why there's a "hyperlink" on "acoustic guitar".. I never set it up that way ..and can't seem to get rid of it..

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Bob Grado, Williams D10 (lefty), Peavey 1000,
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 11:37 am    
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Are you using an amplifier model and speaker? Or just using it for effects. You must use the amp and speaker to get more level.

If you are using it just as effects, it's basically just the instrument level outputs. And if you set up an amp simulator without speaker there isn't much voume level output. When I created my amp programs I had to use a speaker emulator to get enough volume level.
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David Spires


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Millersport, OH
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 5:17 pm    
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The "studio direct" mode is the highest output as well, and if you use balanced 1/4" cabling from the XT to the board, you will get a signal boost (is it 6dB? I forget exactly.)

Another trick I use is to use the "makeup gain" on the compressor to get as hot an internal signal as I can, before clipping inside the POD.

Hope any of this helps, but it certainly is possible to get a strong signal to the board. In my studio, I don't even run to another pre - just line level to the recorder.

Good luck,

David Spires

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Webb Kline


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Orangeville, PA
Post  Posted 18 Sep 2005 5:30 pm    
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Dittos on the balanced cable. That does make a big difference and the tone seems more consistent with one as well.

But, that still seems like you have other issues on your gain problem.
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Jay Ganz


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Post  Posted 19 Sep 2005 6:08 am    
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So, what's the actual difference in the balanced
1/4" cable? Does it have an XLR on one end and
are there two hot wires along with the ground?
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 19 Sep 2005 7:37 am    
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Reading my POD XT manual, it appears they have jacks that will either work unbalanced (Tip and Sleeve) or balanced (Tip, Ring, Sleeve).

And, it notes the balanced application will provide +4dBu for "Pro" equipment.
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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 19 Sep 2005 10:37 am    
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As I understand it, the leftmost "Volume" control provides the overall level of the unit, regardless of which patch you're using. I set my quietest patch to a comfortable level in headphones, with the Channel Volume pretty high. Then I step through all of my other patches and turn down Channel Volume to reach the same comfortable level.

I've only had the unit for a few weeks, but I did a gig with it last weekend after running through this procedure and it worked well. You shouldn't have to touch Channel Volume while you're performing. Ideally you shouldn't even have to touch the main Volume knob when you change patches either, if you have all of Channel Volume settings balanced.

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BobG

 

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Holmdel, NJ
Post  Posted 20 Sep 2005 3:29 am    
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Thanks for the feedback guys.. I'm not quite sure I had the POD set to "studio direct" ..i'll give that a shot..

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Bob Grado, Williams D10 (lefty), Peavey 1000,
Profex ll.


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Buck Dilly

 

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Branchville, NJ, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 20 Sep 2005 1:04 pm    
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Another good trick is to use the compressor/gate ciruit "on". But use low compression and turn the volumn up there. It is very effective to match low level instruments. I use mando and acoustic and steels too. This solution works well without distortion. the Channel volume can cause clipping that sounds crappy.
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Jay Ganz


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Post  Posted 20 Sep 2005 1:33 pm    
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Hey, I just made up a "balanced" cord with
tip, ring, sleeve on one end & an XLR connector
on the other. I plugged into the balanced
input on the power amp mounted in my old tweed
cabinet. Man what a difference! I did
expect a jump in volume, but it also improved
the overall "fidelity" of the steel. I highly
recommend this!
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 20 Sep 2005 2:04 pm    
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Bob Grado

 

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Holmdel, New Jersey
Post  Posted 4 May 2012 6:06 am    
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Quote:
Another trick I use is to use the "makeup gain" on the compressor to get as hot an internal signal as I can, before clipping inside the POD.



I have too laugh at myself for this one. My band played a gig last night opening for Craig Campbell and David Spires who was the steel player in his band. First off I have to say David is a terrific player who was gracious enough to spend time to talk to me. I asked him if he could listen to our set and offer any constructive criticism not only on my playing but also the tone of my steel running through the PODXT. He walked over to me after my sound check and offered to make the same adjustments to my POD that he suggested in the above post. 7 YEARS AGO! The adjustment solved a problem I have been dealing with all this time! Why I never tried his suggestion back then who knows. Better late then never I guess. Anyway, thanks David for your help. Funny how life works sometimes.
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 4 May 2012 8:54 am    
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What are the best compressor settings for steel, to get the gain without getting a squashed sound?
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