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Topic: Sho-Bud Super Pro tuning rods |
Jason Bergeron
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Posted 26 Apr 2012 5:13 pm |
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Could anyone tell me exactly what these rods are for my '81 Super Pro, where they go, and how to install them? A video link may help since I don't know much about the undercarrage of these things yet.
I tried looking these up in my parts catalog, but have had no luck identifying these specific rods.
I was told they were used on my C6 neck and used for the G7th tuning (G, D, B, G, E, D, G, B, E, G)
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Sho~Bud Super Pro, Peavey Nashville 400
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Last edited by Jason Bergeron on 26 Apr 2012 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 26 Apr 2012 5:28 pm
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They're pull rods. The ends with the nylon tuners go thru the changer (inserted from the inside of the gtr, with the nylon tuners removed), and the other end has the hook that goes thru one of the holes on a bell crank, and gets attached to it via a clip-type device.
Exactly which strings & pedal/KL they might go to can't be determined from just this photo, but judging by their lengths, I'd say they belong to an E9 setup. |
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2012 7:13 pm
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Would looking at my tunings help to determine the strings & pedal/KL that they are used for?
If so, I have an earlier post with the tunings on it.
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 26 Apr 2012 8:54 pm
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That, along with some detailed pics of your steel's undercarriage, might help us figure it out.
Toss in some views of the changer end plate...where the nylon tuners are, as well. |
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Al Udeen
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maple grove mn usa
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Posted 27 Apr 2012 9:24 am rod clips problem
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In regards to these pull rods, I had the first Super-Pro in 1977, When I had a friend go over the guitar after playing it for over 10 yrs, He drilled
small holes in the rods to replace the black clips & used cotter pins to reduce
a small amount of drag caused by the clips, He was the Top engineer at Honeywell & could improve on about anything mechanical! The guitar played noticably smoother after this improvement. |
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Jason Bergeron
From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2012 11:48 am changer pic.
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| Skip Edwards wrote: |
That, along with some detailed pics of your steel's undercarriage, might help us figure it out.
Toss in some views of the changer end plate...where the nylon tuners are, as well. |
Here's a picture of the changer end plate. I will have pics of the undercarriage asap.
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2012 3:15 pm undercarriage pics
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Here are pictures of the undercarriage. side to side and one pic is taken as a whole.
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 6:54 am
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Wow... at this point, I'm stumped. I'm not familiar with that G7 tuning - especially since there isn't a 7th in the open strings. Is that a tuning used alot for Cajun style? How are the pedals set up?
The top neck looks like a fairly standard E9 setup. |
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Jason Bergeron
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Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 8:58 am
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Yes it is a Cajun tuning. When I had the guitar fixed, I was told that the pedals were changed to the Emmons setup.
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Gene Jones
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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 9:24 am
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I do recognize the sponges that were necessary to somewhat reduce the rod clatter while playing. My wife always told me that she could hear that from several rows back in the audience. Even so, I still loved my Super-Pro.
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Gene Jones
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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 9:24 am
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I do recognize the sponges that were necessary to somewhat reduce the rod clatter while playing. My wife always told me that she could hear that from several rows back in the audience. Even so, I still loved my Super-Pro.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 9:39 am
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| whoever changed the back neck tuning did a poor job. the rods and bellcranks aren't aligned properly. the extra rods you have are probably what's left over from the standard c6 setup. i'd pull the rods all out on that neck and reposition everything properly to whatever tuning you prefer. |
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Jason Bergeron
From:
Lake Charles, LA, USA
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 3:07 pm
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Thanks for the input. I guess I'll have to get in touch with someone who knows how to work on these and have them give me a hand on fixing it.
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 5:12 pm
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The most common back neck tuning is C6th. This tuning most commonly uses about 14 pull-rods to provide changes over 5 pedals and 1 knee lever.
Seems like there's a ton of great players in Louisiana, so my guess would be that it's likley that there are at least a few good steel mechanics in your area. |
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