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Roual Ranes
From: Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2012 7:34 pm
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The only band I can think of is Waylon with Ralph Mooney. Possibly Leon McAuliffe (sp) with Bob Wills.
Sorta tell me something. |
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Joe Casey
From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 5:17 am
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As good and great as many steelers are.I doubt if they can or could have drawn a crowd of anyone but steel players and in general musicians..Waylon,Merle,George to name but a few could have drawn the general public with house bands..Without the headlining artist, fame would have missed a lot of musicians..Not that musicians never made it easy for the artist because the good ones sure did and still do..Sad thing its us musicians that know who they are.. |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 7:16 am
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I guessin' Robert Randolph is #1 in ticket sales sold to folks wanting to see a Pedal Steel player. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 7:46 am
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I always liked Ralph Mooney, as he was one of my biggest influences when I was starting. But in my opinion, 99% of the people who saw Ralph with Waylon were primarily interested in Waylon. As far as steelers go, I think the biggest "draw" for musicians backing a lead singer were the two Buddys (Emmons and Charleton) when they were playing for Tubb, and I'd guess this is because they were allowed to do so many instrumentals, and also because Ernest announced them...which told me he didn't mind sharing the stage with his musicians (as so many modern singers seem to do). |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Joe Casey
From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 8:16 am
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Santo and Johnny didn't do too bad.. |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 1:40 pm
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Going back to now what is ancient history, in the 40's and 50's NOEL BOGGS was very popular with the public out here on the West Coast. Noel had a great personality and always mingled with the public. _________________ Sacramento Western Swing Society Hall of Fame, 1992 |
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Roual Ranes
From: Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 2:14 pm
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Back when I was "general public" or as close as I ever was, I would have gone to see Carl Smith if he had been in the area because I wanted to see Curly Chalker. I have seen many stars in my time but that is the only time I remember being interested in the steel player only. This is excluding Reece because I knew Reece.
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 2:26 pm
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I would say Robert Randolph, too!
I might add "Dire Straits" with Paul Franklin the year 1/2 tour. Of course, Mark was the main draw. |
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Jeremy Marcum
From: Northport, Alabama... USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 2:56 pm
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Lloyd Green, Just listen to the crowd respond to his licks on the Panther Hall LP. |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 3:08 pm Back in the days of early FOLK MUSIC.................
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Back when Eddy Arnold was the hottest personality on national radio and RCA Victor records.......
His national and world-wide appeal was certainly a
trend setter and second to none, and when audiences heard an EDDY ARNOLD record......
the first person they heard was "Little Roy", "Little IVAN" and/or Roy Wiggins on his
Gibson, Dbl-neck, steel guitar.
There was no one more identifiable in all of country-folk music than Roy Wiggins.
For many audiences, Roy WAS "Eddy Arnold".
How much more famous could one 'sideman' get, than that? His intro's and solo's were the mainstay of Arnolds' recorded songs. |
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Tony Glassman
From: The Great Northwest
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 3:45 pm
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Probably the biggest indivdual steel guitar "draws"
1] Robert Randolph
2} Speedy West
3] Alvino Ray |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 5:20 pm
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Yes, Alvino Rey was another one. Bandleader, fronting his orchestra with a steel guitar, playing the best venues in New York in the 1940s and 50s, also many television shows, sold a lot of records...
Some country rock icons also played to huge crowds back in the 70s, Rusty Young, Sneaky Pete, and dare I say... Jerry Garcia.
Isn't it odd that the steel players most of us consider to be the greatest, our heroes, Emmons, Green, Byrd, and many others ...are (or were) little known to the general public. They are masters of the instrument, but have always been sidemen. I guess that says a lot about our instrument, and about what catches the eyes and ears of the public. _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
25 Songs C6 Lap Steel / 25 MORE Songs C6 Lap Steel / 16 Songs, C6, A6, B11 / 60 Popular Melodies E9 Pedal Steel |
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Dave Simonis
From: Stevens Point, WI USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2012 7:18 pm
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Jay Dee with Desert Rose. I think being recognized as part of the actual band with equal status (and cool suits).
I can't say I know who the bass player or drummer were...just the front 4. _________________ Dave Simonis
Fiddle: Zeta, Arthur Conner, many others.../Steel: GFI SD-10 Ultra.../Mandolin: Breedlove.../Guitar: Gibson, Fender, Taylor.../Amps: Peavey NV112, Evans FET 500.../Others: Hilton, Goodrich, Stereo Steel, Pendulum Pre-amp... |
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Bill Cunningham
From: Atlanta, Ga. USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 11:31 am
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Hmmm. I'll bet there is a high degree of correlation between the respondent's age and the response given....Come up in the '70's, then the answer is Mooney with Waylon or maybe Lloyd with Pride. '60's it's Leon and Buddy with ET. If you are earlier, it's Boggs or Little Roy, or Byrd. If you are 20-30 something today then the answer is Robert Randolph. There are exceptions but generally speaking....... |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 11:38 am
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I'm 48 and RR was my go-to answer.
It seems like the most logical rational answer based on ticket sales for a band-leading Steel Player.
It also brings me great pleasure to know that the Country-Rock Jam-Band audience loved and supported their Steel Players (even knew 'em by name)!
What were Eddie Arnolds big hits that had prominet Steel parts? I will give 'em a listen.
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Dave Harmonson
From: Seattle, Wa
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 11:59 am
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I would say that Sneaky Pete was a big part of the Flying Burrito Brother's drawing card. Rusty Young with Poco.
As far as who is the biggest draw just by numbers alone it's gotta be Robert Randolph. _________________ www.facebook.com/countrydaveharmonson |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 1:17 pm
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Don't forget Jeremy Wakefield, a multi talented guy who really has the respect of both Musicians and the Public. _________________ Sacramento Western Swing Society Hall of Fame, 1992 |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Don Walters
From: Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 7:40 pm
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Pete Burak said
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What were Eddie Arnolds big hits that had prominet Steel parts? |
from the album Early Hits Of The Tennessee Plowboy, (I got my copy from iTunes)
01 Cattle Call
02 Each Minute Seems A Million Years
03 I Couldn't Believe It Was True
04 What Is Life Without Love
05 That's How Much I Love You
06 Chained To A Memory
07 To My Sorrow
08 It's A Sin
09 I'll Hold You In My Heart
10 Bouquet Of Roses
11 What A Fool I Was
12 Then I Turned And Walked Slowly Away
13 Texarkana Baby
14 My Daddy Is Only A Picture
15 There's Not A Thing I Wouldn't Do For You
16 Anytime
17 A Heart Full Of Love
18 Just A Little Lovin' Will Go A Long, Long Way
19 The Echo Of Your Footsteps
20 Don't Rob Another Man's Castle
21 Little Angel With The Dirty Face
22 One Kiss Too Many
23 I'm Throwing Rice
24 Why Should I Cry
25 Take Me In Your Arms And Hold Me
Each song starts with a steel guitar intro by Little Roy Wiggins (AFAIK) except for the first one (Cattle Call) which begins with an acoustic guitar strum |
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Alan Tanner
From: Near Dayton, Ohio
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Posted 17 Apr 2012 9:29 pm
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I asked all my nieces and nephews (age 35 and down) just to see what results I could get. I asked 10 of them. "Do you know the names of any steel guitar players?". Answer "no" to "what is a steel guitar?". Sheesh...also asked Who are your favorite country music artists (loose term)....all the way from "none" to Taylor Swift because of her hair-do. These young uns can name any amount of rock guitarists, hippity hop stuff, some new country/rock guys/girls....but not a one either knew who or what about any thing steel guitar. I can name most of them over the years (I am over 65) and my brother can name a couple. My sisters don't have a clue, and there was music in our house all the time we were growing up and my dad had a band that had a steel picker in it. They can name some of the older git pickers tho'. Chet, Les, and Roy Clark. But no steel pickers. |
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Joe Casey
From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 19 Apr 2012 7:55 am
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I rest my case.. |
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