Alex Cattaneo
From: Quebec, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2012 11:29 pm
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So I'm now tuning my steel by ear, tuning out the beats as they say. Works quite well, but I'm not sure how to go about the string 7 and 1 F#.
Thing is, let's say I tune my E straight up with the pedals engaged. Because of cabinet drop, it will be sharp in the open position. Then, I'll tune my B notes to the sharp E. Since B is the 5th, it will have to be a little sharp to sound in tune. So the E is a bit sharp because of the cabinet drop, the B is a bit sharp to the E, time to tune the F# to that open B. And F# is the 5th of B, so to get a nice open B chord, that F# will have to be sharp. F# is sharp to the B which is sharp to the E which is sharp from cabinet drop... (and the E would be even sharper if we tune the A rather then the E to 440). If you're still reading, well that F# is now pretty dang sharp isn't it?
So, I guess I'm curious about how pros treat their F#. Tune it to the open B? Tune it to the C# with the pedal engaged? Do you tune strings 1 and 7 the same?
I don't know how relevant this is, but I play a lot of minor chords with this current songwriter I'm backing up, so having perfect major triads is not enough. One the voicings I really like to use is string 7-6-5 with pedals A and B. Because string 7 is tuned higher than tempered, I simply slant the bar a bit and it sounds pretty good. I suppose that's part of the learning process, deciding what you need and figuring out a way to make it work. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 17 Feb 2012 1:51 am
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I tune them if I'm recording, to the use I'll use it most.
For live playing, I'll tune 7 to have a sweet minor third with 6B and I tune 1 in a way that sounds more complicated than it is, once you get used to it: C pedal F# is first a minor third off 3B, the C# goes to a perfect fourth from that. 1st string goes to perfect fifth from B. Then I move 1 and 4C to the middle between them: I have a couple of bluesy licks that NEED the unison, and the western ear is used to tense intervals, but a tense unison? NEVAHH.
Such annoying compromises have got me seriously toying with back to Bach. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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