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Topic: Rock/Country Rock Style on the e9 pedal steel |
Jonathan Colby
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 1:15 am |
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Hi guys.
I'm getting into a band that plays alot of country rock, southern rock I guess you could call it. The songs are mostly simple riff-based songs.
The sound they are looking for is slightly distorted slide guitar sound, but I want to still bring out the special sounds that you can only get on the pedal steel.
I've got my standard set of major pentatonic riffs, but anyone know of any good instructional materials on this (books, dvds)? Or, any good examples of players/songs I could listen to for ideas?
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Scott Swartz
From:
St. Louis, MO
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 4:44 am
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How about early Joe Ely records with Lloyd Maines on steel...
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Jonathan Colby
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 5:38 am
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| Thanks for the tip Scott. Lloyd is a superb player. I'll check out his earlier stuff. |
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Leo Melanson
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 8:36 am Slide licks on steel
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You've probably already done this, but if not, hook up your favorite distortion pedal to your steel and with the gain up, start playing around with bluesy, rock slide licks. You will find many familiar licks in the interior strings.
I was amazed to learn how easy it is to play these types of licks on steel. My prior attempts at slide guitar on a 6 string always had too much fret noise and lack of intonation. On steel these are a breeze.
Your band mates will be suprised to learn that steel "can do that too" !!!
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Thomas Butler
From:
Robbinsdale, MN
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 8:44 am
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after reading the entry about Joe Ely and Lloyd Maines I've been listening to an album called "live shots" all day - this album is amazing - recorded live in London - is that Lloyd Maines playing pedal steel - any more about him anyplace?
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Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Roger Francis
From:
kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2011 11:00 am
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| Another guy that plays great distortion on steel is Joe Wright, he uses the same aproach ive done for years because i did'nt know what steel was supposed to sound like with distortion so i took a lead guitar aprouch. never heard Joe E or Lloyd M play but i will look that one up |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2011 2:52 pm
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Leo is right,It's VERY easy to play rock,blues, and southern rock on E-9th,been doing it for years, I just use a Boss DS-1 distortion pedal, I used to play along with the greatest hits of the ABB a lot.Dwayne and Dickie licks work great on steel. You can learn a lot of good licks just doing this. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 16 Sep 2011 3:12 pm Duane
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Remember Duane Allmans favorite tuning was open E, of which you have 5 of those 6 strings, on your open E9th
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Gerry Simon
From:
Ohio, USA
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 16 Sep 2011 8:13 pm
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I have two things to say about this : Sneakey Pete .
On second thoughts I have another two things : Al Perkins . |
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 16 Sep 2011 8:15 pm
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Great tone Gerry . |
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Johan Jansen
From:
Europe
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 18 Sep 2011 5:17 am
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Have you tried one of those 'sitar' bars??? It's a normal bar with a flat milled into the bar and gives a slightly distorted sound. Have not scene many around for years but sounds like it would be ideal for what you are trying to do.
I used mine a fair amount of time when playing similar music back in the late 70's.
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Jonathan Colby
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 2:03 am
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| Robert - no but I heard of some people using a broomstick to get a Dobro sound. Tried it and it didn't work out too well for me. |
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 1:04 pm
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I never had much luck with a wooden bar either....
Try and find a 'sitar' style bar, I think you might be surprised.
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 1:18 pm
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I have wood bar I made from a broom handle that I use once in a while. It makes the strings die out almost immediately, which causes the steel sound like a banjo. (Sorry b0b.) You have to plant it in one place and do banjo rolls. It doesn't work if you try to slide with it, or play anything that require that the notes be sustained.
During my gigging years, I mostly used it at the end of "Peaceful Easy Feeling."
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Michael Robertson
From:
Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 2:22 pm Bag O tricks
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Learn the intro to “Fire on the Mountain”
Have it in your bag of tricks and at the ready.
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Lynn Fargo
From:
Fort Edward, NY
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 2:38 pm
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Gerry Simon,
That was really cool! I have an old Boss Tone, but what's a Steelrider. (Don't mind me, been out of the field for about 25 years.)
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 3:01 pm
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| i like using the broomstick, but i keep hitting the drummer with the 'straw' end. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 3:56 pm
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| what's a Steelrider? |
It's a MIDI pickup that turns your steel into a synthesizer driver. They have been unavailable for many years. (Maybe it's time somebody started making them again.)
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Gerry Simon
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2011 4:54 pm
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Like what Mike said. I have it on my 12 U Kline guitar and driving a Proteus synth (long dead now)...There is NO actual steel tone in that clip and I bring in the boss tone effect with the volume pedal for the steel and have a separate pedal for the synth strings. Joe Kline had to have them make a special PU for us as the strings are a tiny bit closer together on the Kline. I used to take it out all the time for gigs...now I use it mostly for home recording; I'm paranoid of it breaking and having no recourse. I also use a sitar bar and a wood bar. I hollowed out my wood bar and put an old Barcus Berry PU inside for some interesting sounds but that was 30 years ago when I was trying for some kind of stereo sound!  |
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Edward Efira
From:
California, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2011 11:31 am
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Worth listening to Bobby Black on the early Commander Cody albums, he knows it all, also don't forget Ricky Nelson plenty of great youtube vids w/ the great late Tom Brumley
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Rick Lawrence
From:
Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2011 4:45 am
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