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Bo Legg
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Posted 10 Jan 2012 4:05 pm |
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Turns out this might be a subject of interest.
b0b mentioned Quartal Harmony with an unrelated topic recently. It made me wonder why he would bring up something that was not used very often even in Jazz.
I had Stuart look in his E9 tab achieves for examples of Quartal Harmony which I was sure he wouldn’t find any and I would comment as much.
Turns out that there are a lot of examples in tab of Quartal Harmony that I just didn’t recognize when I saw it or heard it. It amazed me how often it is used in small chunks.
Here is just one of the many examples of Chordal Harmony at the end of a song on E9 I thought was just a quick Aadd9 to E13 to A6/9 resolve.
Turns out to be an inverted scale degree to a scale degree to a scale degree of Quartal Harmony.
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 10 Jan 2012 9:47 pm
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Quartal harmony is very useful if you don't want to sound like the country guy in a rock band.
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 9:07 am
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Listen to McCoy Tyner and Chick Corea, and basically any jazz piano from the 60s on (although you will hear it in So What) and you will hear tons of this. I noticed quite a few pedal steel players, such as Lloyd Green and Buddy Emmons, using quartal chords. I use them all the time and have been working on designing a tuning specifically for this.
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 9:32 am
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Quartal type harmony is used quite a bit in current pop music also. Check out Dave Matthews and all the stuff in that genre. A working knowledge of modal and quartal harmony is necessary if you want to have anything to play along with those tunes. There are tons of songs out there now that move between major and minor where the standard triad type harmony that pivots on dominant 7ths just does not work. You don't need to call it quartal or modal harmony but you do need to be able to hear it and play accordingly.
Also listen to 20th century French music like Debussy to see where that sound came from in western music. From what I have read Debussy got the idea of extending harmony in a different way after hearing Javanese gamelan at the Paris World's fair.
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 9:48 am
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Let me be the first to wish you a Merry Christmas 2012  I'm getting an early start so I can complete my new project "Auld Lang Syne" in Quartal Harmony before the December 31st.
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 9:52 am
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| Bob Hoffnar wrote: |
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Also listen to 20th century French music like Debussy to see where that sound came from in western music. From what I have read Debussy got the idea of extending harmony in a different way after hearing Javanese gamelan at the Paris World's fair. |
In my world, Debussy is king.
Satie is another who used the stacked fourths.
Miles Davis incorporated them a lot in his 80s and 90s recordings with his keyboard player, Robert Irving III, playing them on their Oberheims.
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Jim Hoke
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Posted 18 Jan 2012 6:32 am
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| I adapted a John Hughey change on C6th that opens up lots of forth stacks. By lowering 6 (E) a whole step, you get a forths stack with 3-5-6 and another with 5-6-8. When you play melodies using this shape w/ the top note as the melody note, it's pretty jazzy-sounding. This way, you can get 4ths much lower than using the given way of 1-4-6 (if you have the D on top). The added bonus of this change is the obvious country lick of bending up the 2nd to the 3rd in a chord. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 18 Jan 2012 10:08 am
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Jim,
Dave Easley pulls his E's up to F with his mystery string lever to get at those voicings. I put a middle D string in my C6 set up and got rid of my low C. Its more natural for me.
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2012 2:20 pm
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I drop my E's on a knee to get after it, for somewhat similar reasons. To me though, the best part of quartal playing is the end of it -  - when you float around all suspendy and uncommitted-like for a while then slap back down out of it with some big honking major thirds. Like a normal person....  |
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Jay Fagerlie
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Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2012 4:10 pm
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I'm lazy- and at work so my steel isn't here
Someone post a short clip of what this sounds like!
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