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Topic: "Sweeping" Talent Under The Rug |
Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 6:34 am |
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| How much talent throughout the land goes unnoticed, until it is swept beneath the rug, (so to speak). It now appears that having special abilities, is no guarantee of escaping the veritable push broom. Yes, that list includes pedal steel guitarists. |
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Gary Lee Gimble
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Fred Shannon
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Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 7:40 am
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"How much talent throughout the land goes unnoticed, until it is swept beneath the rug, (so to speak)."
Then one has to ask, of that group who meet the broom, choose to be in that category. Some folks like being unnoticed and would not seek the limelight under any circumstances. 
phred
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Stephen Silver
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 8:36 am
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Hmmm, and what does this have to do with the physical instrument as defined in this topic category? Sounds like it belongs in Bills traditional category of choice, Steel Players.
60/40 indeed.
S |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 8:38 am
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| I think every musician (pedal steelers), knows of someone in their travels who should have been recognized and celebrated for their special talent. Very sad indeed! |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 9:07 am
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Stephen,
Perhaps broadening the personal perspectives may serve to eliminate these "oversights". Who's to say a vocalist, or a banjo player of the highest order couldn't move to the pedal steel guitar in two shakes of a lamb's tail. It's been known to happen! Personally, I'm rooting for the talented steel players who are taken for granted, and eventually collide with social push brooms.
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James Mayer
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back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 9:07 am
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| Bill, if you're talking about me....I don't need this type of publicity. |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 9:15 am
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If I understand what Bill is saying... I could stand to see some new Barbara Mandrell Steel videos.
Talk about talent swept under the rug.
If you ever get tired of Steel Guitar Rag, watch Barbara Mandrells version. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 9:15 am
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James,
You have one thousand, one hundred, fifty seven bids to be heard. I think you could handle a little notational recognition quite well. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 9:21 am
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Pete,
Yes, yes, yes! Barbara's exceptional talent is spread out much too thin by the general populace. I agree one hundred percent! |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 11:34 am
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| What if someone suggested something unusual about a new approach to the pedal steel guitar? Would they experience the same fate as Galileo did many years ago, when he tried to prove that the earth revolved around the sun? Sceptics are still roaming about at large, always hampering progress. The only problem is that too much time is wasted in trying to prove a point. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 12:21 pm
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| gary lee is correct. to be a marketable celebrity of any questionable talent one must inflate the plastic body to the accepted overblown 'about to pop' parameters. those who do not abide by these rules may be reduced to unknown status, as all they have to offer is a natural, unique and original offering. ewwwww.. and will probably never be joked about condescendingly on tmz. |
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 12:40 pm
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Musicians typically have no problem recognizing the talent, or lack thereof of other musicians. It is usually the spectator/listener or those on the business end of music that are guilty of not recognizing talent. Just remember all of the people who have come up to you after a performance to compliment you on your piano playing! 
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Gary Lee Gimble
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Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 1:32 pm
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| is usually the spectator/listener |
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| remember all of the people who have come up to you after a performance to compliment you |
A few months back during a gig with String Theory, my steel ride on Nuages yielded a thunderous round of applause. When in fact, this was the most sorriest piece of steel work I've ever done, bar none. Yes indeed, thoulst lips inflated as I worked the crowd, accepting many complementary rounds of Jura Gold 16 yr old.
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 1:42 pm
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| The brains and the brawn are seated at the pedal steel guitars. The corporate moguls holding the keys to high places determine the forward movements of super talents. Those who have laid the cornerstones of country music, are finding themselves outside looking in, according to some reports. I would call that sweeping talent out the door, rather than under the rug. I can't decide which is less desirable. |
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James Mayer
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back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 1:52 pm
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| Bill Hankey wrote: |
| The brains and the brawn are seated at the pedal steel guitars. The corporate moguls holding the keys to high places determine the forward movements of super talents. Those who have laid the cornerstones of country music, are finding themselves outside looking in, according to some reports. I would call that sweeping talent out the door, rather than under the rug. I can't decide which is less desirable. |
I would think the songwriters would get the credit for laying the cornerstones. If this forum is any indication, there aren't a lot of songwriting pedal steel players out there. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 2:12 pm
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James,
You should talk to CONNIE SMITH if you get the chance concerning her self-penned hit song, called "I'll Come Running". Weldon Myrick, who has been experiencing some tough times of late, was a very imaginative steel guitarist during the 60's when CONNIE first traveled to Tennessee. Her song was arranged by WELDON, and it took off like a shot out of a cannon. |
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James Mayer
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back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 2:21 pm
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| Bill Hankey wrote: |
James,
You should talk to CONNIE SMITH if you get the chance concerning her self-penned hit song, called "I'll Come Running". Weldon Myrick, who has been experiencing some tough times of late, was a very imaginative steel guitarist during the 60's when CONNIE first traveled to Tennessee. Her song was arranged by WELDON, and it took off like a shot out of a cannon. |
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I just thought "cornerstone" was a bit much. |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 2:44 pm
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| Yes, yes, yes! Barbara's exceptional talent is spread out much too thin by the general populace. I agree one hundred percent! |
I would say that Barbara's exceptional talent was spread thin by her own preference to be a famous and wealthy pop-star singer rather than an outstanding instrumentalist. She knew which side the bread was buttered on! The 'general populace' developed the perception that she and her producers crafted for public consumption, that's all.
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 2:58 pm
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James,
Emmons' "Four Wheel Drive", and Franklin's "Song For Sara" are good examples of cornerstones and building blocks. |
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 3:06 pm
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Nevertheless, the direction that any genre of music is to take is not in the hands of the artist, regardless of the instrument that is played. Just watch garbage like American Idol and you can figure that one out.
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Bill Hankey
From:
Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 3:10 pm
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Jim,
I doubt if Barbara's great steel guitar enthusiasm was appreciated by the masses as much as it should have been. I know that she traveled far and wide as a featured steel guitarist. She is so multitalented that there was no avoiding choreograpic and multiple instrumental performances, as well as her beautiful vocalization. Everything fell into place until the tragic accident. She is the best of the best, with talent to spare. |
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Bill Hankey
From:
Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 3:48 pm
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| Back in the 50's CBS gave JIMMY DEAN his own JIMMY DEAN SHOW on WTOP Washinton, against NBC's Dave Garroway. Lack of sponsors ended that country show. I remember CHET ATKINS appearing as a guest performer. JIMMY commented by saying CHET'S hands reminded him of a frustrated octopus. Without public support, the show was doomed to failure. More of what I'm writing about. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Dec 2011 8:16 pm
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| which accident was that? |
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