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Topic: unintentional half stop |
Gianni Gori
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Livorno, Italy
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 5:35 am |
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Hi,
a few nights ago I expanded the copedent on my E9th neck, adding a FP on pedal 4 (working together with 2 pulls on C6th neck) and a Eb to E change on second string (together with 7th and 1st string changes).
Everything seemed to be working great.
Last night I realized that my modified LKR, before reaching the G# on 1st string and the E on 2nd, has sort of feel stop around the half of its travel.
I was going to fix the problem while I realized that... I don't really know if it's a real problem!
At the stop position my first string is a G (perfectly in tune!) and the second is still a Eb.
Considering that many copedents have no "E" change on 2nd string and a F# to G on first... what do you suggest me?
Fix the problem or enjoy one more combination?
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Gianni
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 5:49 am
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Gianni,
What I first read as a problem might not have been one after all. I edited so as not to confuse the issue.
You have re-built that old MSA into a thing of beauty!
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Last edited by Bent Romnes on 28 Nov 2011 12:45 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 7:34 am
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It sounds like it's just the same kind of feel stop most guitars have on the second string lower. If you want to eliminate that "hitch," speed up the first string a bit and slow down the second.
I'd recommend doing that, as that raise sounds best when they move together
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 7:38 am Humm!
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Hi Gianni,
I just checked mine, I've had the, string 1&2 raise on my steel for a while now, but hadn't looked at other then pulling both up to pitch. Mine is doing the same thing. The first string pulls up 1/2 tone, before the 2nd string starts to raise. It seems to be timed perfectly for the change to be in tune. The half stop is light & easy to over shoot, but it is there and I think is a usable change. Sounds pretty, pick 1&2, raise the 1st string a half step, then 1 a whole and 2 a half. Nice. I'm going to leave mine as it is. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 7:56 am
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Huh. I wonder which is standard? when I put my 1&2 raise on, I timed it so they'd move together like a bar slant, because it seemed like the right sound. But I already raise to G with the 6th string G#-F#.
I'm contemplating raising 7 to G# and 9 to E on the same move (p0 in my case)
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Gianni Gori
From:
Livorno, Italy
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 9:45 am
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As Dick says, I think I may like that stop!!
That's why I am evaluating leaving it that way.
The feel stop is smooth and nice. Easy to stop, easy to get across.
I am just amazed noticing that what I found out as a problem to be fixed may become a nice feature.
I just need to learn what to play with it  
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Zum D-10 9x8, MSA S-10 4x5, Quilter Steelaire combo, Peavey Nashville 112 (w/Ken Fox mod & Jensen Neo), Hilton volume pedals, Sarno Tonic Preamp, Lexicon MPX-1 |
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Gianni Gori
From:
Livorno, Italy
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 10:01 am
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| Bent Romnes wrote: |
| ...You have 6 pulls on the Franklin pedal? ... |
Nope, 5 pulls. Three on E9th neck, two on C6th.
A lil' bit stiffer than I hoped, and yet less than I expected.
I will look under the skirt () and re-check anything but I don't think I may get it that much smoother. After all, we're talking about 5 pulls on a single pedal....
Suggestions?
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Gianni
Zum D-10 9x8, MSA S-10 4x5, Quilter Steelaire combo, Peavey Nashville 112 (w/Ken Fox mod & Jensen Neo), Hilton volume pedals, Sarno Tonic Preamp, Lexicon MPX-1 |
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Nov 2011 12:48 pm
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Gianni,
Judging by the nice refinish job you did, and the set-up, I am sure things are a smooth as possible under that skirt!
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