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Topic: Adjusting Hilton pedal to stay at level you set it at... |
Tab Tabscott
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Somewhere between Vashon Island and The mainland.
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 5:59 am |
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I had to open up my Hilton pedal the other day because the spring stopped working, and the pedal kept dropping down to full volume if you took your foot off of it.
So I fiddled around with it, cleaned up the curvy plastic part inside (the one that gets the grease)and it springs all the way back up now. Which is not necessarily a good thing...for instance, if you're playing your c6th neck and you pull your foot off the volume to use two feet on the pedals, the volume springs all the way back up, and...no sound...
I hope I haven't opened a can of worms trying to get it to stay where I set it...anybody experience similar?
Tab
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 7:04 am
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If the plastic piece inside still has grease on it, remove it (per Keith's instructions) as it's not needed.
Tightening the allen screw on each side should help with staying put. |
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 7 Oct 2011 8:29 am
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| Tab, Jack is correct in what he is telling you. We found there is no need for grease. If the plastic piece has grease on it, your pedal was probably made before 2007 or 2008. That is during the time we converted from cast pedals to pedals cut from heavy sheet metal. The cast pedals did not need an adjustment mechanism on the clutch spring, but the heavy sheet metal pedals required an adjustment mechanism on the clutch spring. Tab-----on "ALL" pedals---O-Rings are used on the hinge bushings, to take up any side to side slack. If the O-rings on the hinge bushings are worn out, not installed properly, or missing altogether, the clutch system may not hold the pedal in place properly. Why are the O-Rings important? Because they provide some tension between the bushings and the side of the pedal, thus causing a slight bit of needed friction. Just enough friction to make the springed clutch work properly. Just about any type of rubber O-ring will work, just as long as it fits around the hinge bushing snug. Where can you buy O-Rings--hardware or automotive store. I do have O-rings if you pay postage. |
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Michael Sparks
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Houston, Texas
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Posted 26 Nov 2011 11:41 am
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Keith - I have a problem similar to Tabs. My low profile pedal will immediately drop to "full volume" position when I take my foot off....like to tap on a stomp box. I was thinking that tightening the allen screws at the pivot would do it, but they were plenty tight already. Sound like an O-ring issue?
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Emmons Resound 65 (any minute now...), 2017 Mullen G2, 2010 Emmons Le Grande II, 2003 Emmons Le Grande III, Emmons PP x 2, Telonics VP, Milkman 85W Pedal Steel Amp, Milkman Mini-40 |
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 26 Nov 2011 1:12 pm
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| Michael, if your pedal was made after January 2007, look in the back of it. There is a clutch spring adjustment. There is a big phillips head screw. Screwing the phillips head screw like a clock turns tightens the clutch spring and pulls back on the pedal more. Screwing the phillips head screw the opposite way a clock turns loosens the clutch spring and releases back pull pressure on the clutch. To make your pedal stay in place when you remove your foot is a matter of turning the phillips head screw to set the proper adjustment tension on the clutch spring. O rings are needed on the hinge bushings for the clutch to work properly. On pedals made before 2007 there is no clutch spring adjustment. Just remove all grease and install one or two "new" O rings on the hinge bushings. On pedals made after January 2007 the hinge bolts should not be tight. On pedals made before January of 2007 the hinge bolts should be snug, but not real tight. The hinge bolts have little to do with the pedal dropping forward or springing backwards. Over tightening the hinge bolts can have adverse effect on the action of the pedal. All grease should be removed from any clutch part no matter when the pedal was made. |
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Michael Sparks
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Houston, Texas
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Posted 27 Nov 2011 11:48 am
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Keith,
Perfect! I first looked for the adjustment screw on the underside of the pedal. Not seeing it, I took the pedal off the pull the O-rings - then the adjustment became obvious. Thanks!
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Regards, Mike "Web" Sparks
Emmons Resound 65 (any minute now...), 2017 Mullen G2, 2010 Emmons Le Grande II, 2003 Emmons Le Grande III, Emmons PP x 2, Telonics VP, Milkman 85W Pedal Steel Amp, Milkman Mini-40 |
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