NV 1000 reverb?

Todd Weger · From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA

I just bought a used Nashville 1000. I LOVE the tone I'm getting with it. CLEAN and plenty headroom for any gig I'm doing. However, I do NOT care for the reverb. I know I could use an outboard 'verb, or delay (which I also like, sometimes), but I'd really like to have a useable, good sounding reverb in it for times when I just want a very simple steel, vol pedal, cable and amp.

Is there an 'upgrade' reverb pan I could put in to replace this one, or should I just either not use it, or just accept it as "it is what it is?"

Thanks!
TJW

This is the NV1000 I just got. It's in MINT shape.

Dave Grafe · From: Hudson River Valley NY

Have you taken the tank out to see what it is? There are some options available but the I/O impedances and grounding schemes must match.

From an earlier post:

The old Accutronics reverb tanks came in three types, types 4, 8, and 9. Most are still available and the cost is usually under $40 shipping included.

The type 4 is 17" long and has 2 long springs, each of which consists of two springs joined in the middle, thus classed as a 4-spring unit. This was the original unit chosen by Leo Fender.
The type 8 is 9" long with 3 springs, commonly used by Marshall.
The type 9 is 17" long and uses 3 long springs, each consisting of two springs joined in the middle. These units deliver a more dense and complex reverberated sound than the types 4 and 8. These are my favorite for steel and are found in the old Randall amps, among others.

The original Accutronics' part numbers, still in use by Antique Electronics and by Belton, who recently purchased Sound Enhancements and the Accutronics name and have moved the manufacturing of these units to South Korea, consist of 7 characters as described below.

1st character: Basic Tank Type - 4, 8, or 9

2nd character: Input impedance @ 1kHz
Type 4:
A=8 ohms B=150 ohms C=200 ohms D=250 ohms E=600 ohms F=1475 ohms
Types 8 and 9:
A=10 ohms B=190 ohms C=240 ohms D=310 ohms E=800 ohms F=1925 ohms

3rd character: Output impedance @ 1 kHz
Type 4:
A=500 ohms B=2250 ohms C=10000 ohms
Types 8 and 9:
A=600 ohms B=2575 ohms C=12000 ohms

4th character: Decay time (same for all types)
1 = short (1.2 to 2 sec)
2 = medium (1.75 to 3.0 sec)
3 = long (2.75 to 4 sec)

5th character: Connector arrangement (same for all types)
A = input grounded, output grounded
B = input grounded, output insulated
C = input insulated, output grounded
D = input insulated, output insulated

6th character: Locking device (same for all types)
1 = no lock

7th character: Mounting plane (same for all types)
A = horizontal,open side up
B = horizontal, open side down
C = vertical wall,long axis horizontal, connectors up
D = vertical wall, long axis horizontal, connectors down
E = vertical wall, long axis vertical, input up
F = vertical wall, long axis vertical, output up

The following table summarizes the above data for the most commonly available units:

PART NUMBER / PRIMARY USER / LENGTH / NUMBER OF SPRINGS / INPUT IMPEDANCE@ 1KhZ(DC resistance) / OUTPUT IMPEDANCE @ 1KhZ(DC resistance)

4AB3C1B / Fender / 17" / 4 / 8ohms(.81ohms) / 2,250ohms(200ohms)
4BB2C1B / Acoustic/SLM/Ampeg / 17" / 4 / 150ohms(26ohms) / 2,250ohms(200ohms)
4EB2C1B / Peavey / 17" / 4 / 600ohms(58ohms) / 2,250ohms(200ohms)
4FB3D1B / Music Man, General / 17" / 4 / 1475ohms(200ohms) / 2,250ohms(200ohms)
9AB2C1B / Fender, Boogie / 17" / 6 / 10ohms(.81ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
9EB2C1B / Peavey, General / 17" / 6 / 800(58ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
9FB2A1C / General / 17" / 6 / 1,925(200ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
8AB2A1B / Boogie / 9" / 3 10ohms(.81ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
8BB2A1B / SLM 9" / 3 / 190ohms(26ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
8DB2C1B / Marshall / 9" / 3 / 310ohms(36ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)
8EB2C1B / Fender / 9" / 3 / 800ohms(58ohms) / 2575ohms(200ohms)

Dave Grafe · From: Hudson River Valley NY

I might add that one of the benefits of the "long decay" models is the longer pre-delay time which allows the original signal to be more clearly heard before the 'verb sets in...

Ben Godard · From: Jamesville NC

I never liked the NV1000 reverb. It sounded like crap to me. The amp without the reverb is OK though if you can stand to hall it around. I sold mine a couple yearss ago and went to using two PV 112E's and a rack system to control everything by my side.

Seems like theres a mod now for the NV1000. Not sure.

Paul Sutherland · From: Placerville, California

Todd: What is the Accutronics number on the reverb pan? I would be interested in knowing, even though I don't have a NV 1000.

Todd Weger · From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

The later Peavey's used a 3 spring reverb, but that also required a change in the reverb circuitry in the amp. But, as I previously mentioned I used a two spring reverb 1000 amp on loan from the music store until my new 1000 came in from the factory and I couldn't tell any difference between the two.

Peavey's do not have the deep reverb that the old Fender's have. If a reverb similar to the Fender's is what you are expecting you won't get it with a Peavey.

I've had a Peavey Session 500, Session 400LTD, Nashville 400, Nashville 1000 and a Nashville 112 and the reverb is similar in all of them.

Ken Fox · From: Nashville GA USA

9EB2C1B is the typical Peavey pan used. Try a 4EB3C1B or a 9EB3C1B and you might be very pleased. That would then be a long delay (like our favorite Musicaman and Fender amps used).

I prefer the 4EB3C1B (2 spriong tank) over the 3 spriong tanks, I find them a bit darker.

Todd Weger · From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA

Ken Fox · From: Nashville GA USA

Should be plug an d play, I have already done that type change several times when experimenting with different tanks.

Brandon Bankes · From: Zanesville, Ohio

Hah, weird. I just got my new NV 1000 today and have been playing it all afternoon.

I got this amp because I wanted something a little more solid state sounding (I was using a Fender Twin Reverb)

I am loving the tone but like you, I think the reverb on the NV 1000 sounds like total poop. It ruins the whole tone of the guitar by making this cheesy and cheap metallic sound.

I'm thinking about getting a Boss RV5 as I've seen and heard a lot of guys using them and just bypassing the amp verb.

Any luck with this pedal guys?
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Todd Weger · From: Safety Harbor, FLAUSA

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I've got a Digitech RV7. It is basically Lexicon Reverbs in a "stomp box".

RV7 Link

Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

This pedal sounds better than any I've tried. Better than any on-board reverb tank, imo

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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Thanks for those numbers. I may look into replacement tank for my Evans with its too-short time.[/list]
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Brandon Bankes · From: Zanesville, Ohio

John Gould · From: Houston, TX Now in Cleveland TX

Well I guess my ears must lie to me. My Nashville 1000 has gotten me more compliments on tone than any other amp using the built in reverb. I don't think it's as bad as all that. I do supplement it with a delay pedal and sometimes a compressor or a distortion. I've been told by some people that are players that my tone is pretty darn good.
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Johnny Thomasson · From: Texas, USA

I love Peavey steel amps, but to be honest, I don't care for the reverb in any that I've tried. It's hard to describe, they just sound brittle and sterile to me. I played through a '65 Fender Twin Reverb for about 25 years, and I guess that spoiled me as far as reverb goes. No matter; it's not a show stopper as far as I'm concerned. I just use an RV-3 or RV-5 in front of my Peavey amps and am just as happy as I can be. The Boss pedals don't sound like the reverb in my old Twin, but they still sound really nice to me. I've never played through a Peavey amp that had Ken's Intensive Mod; I'd love to try that. I've heard it sweetens the reverb a bunch. It would be nice not to have to mess with pedals and extra wires.

Gary Carpenter has played through a NV400 for years, and uses the amp's built in reverb. I think his amp has the Peavey mod, but that's it. He gets tone that is absolutely to die for, but it doesn't work for me. Reverb is in the hands, maybe? Smile

The reverb quality may vary from amp to amp, I just don't know. I have a NV400 and a Session 400, and can't use the reverb in either one.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I don't think the amp makes the sound. I've had complements about my sound/tone over the years, no matter what amp I was using or what guitar I was using (I played a 1971 D-10 (Black Laughing

) Emmons PP and now the Franklin D-10 that I've had since it was new in late 81.

I've used the same basic EQ setup on all the Peavey amps with the Parametric EQ - from the Session 500 to the Nashville 400, 1000 and 112.

Bass Plus 9, Mid 800Hz and minus 2 to 3, High and Presence approx plus 1.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Tone starts in the hands. Certain amps will mask certain defects. The Evans seems to mask my brittle shrillness that I never could never tame. But tone comes from the hands.
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Dave Grafe · From: Hudson River Valley NY

...and overly bright reverb does enhance bar slap and pick noise very nicely Confused

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