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Topic: MSA Classic information |
Christopher Lippincott
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Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 1:37 pm |
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I found a MSA classic s-10 with 5 pedals and 4 levers at a buddy's house last night. One of the levers is messed up and I have no idea what the copedant is. It needs some work so I am going to get it repaired for him and take a stab at transitioning from lap to pedal. Does anyone know anything about this guitar, possibly the year, the original copedant/tuning, value etc. I am a c6 lap player and would like to set it up in c6, I feel like the 5 middle pedals would be great for this. Any suggestions?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 3:04 pm
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The standard copedent for a stock Classic was 3&2, I believe, but they would add extras to order, of course.
If you post the serial number, either here or revive the "how old is my MSA?" thread, Reece will be along directly to tell you more about your guitar.
With 5&5, your guitar would be an excellent candidate for rerodding to C6.
Given that they didn't like bent-rod pulls, these guitars are amazingly easy to work on yourself, or you could send it to Bud Carter, who had said he'd rerod a fairly loaded U-12 for $150 plus parts; I'd say an S-10 with not nearly as many pedals would be quite a bit less.
As to copedent, I'd move P5 to LKR.
I can't make charts on my Droid, but I'd set up thusly
LKL: Raise 6th string E to F.
LKV: Raise both As to Bb
LKR: 10th to D, 9th to F#, 5th to F# (standard P5)
P1: Raise both As to B
P2: Lower 6 to Eb, raise 2 to F
P3: Raise 4th A to B, 3rd C to D
P4: Lower 10th C to A, lower 9th F to E, raise 7th C to C#, raise 1st D to D#
P5: Raise both Cs to C#.
EDIT: I forgot the other leg:
RKL: Lower 8th A a whole step to G, and 4th A half step to G#.
RKL: lower 3rd C to B
Note: to accomplish all that, you'll need one of the L-shaped gizmos that Michael Yahl (and probably Tom Bradshaw, he designed it) sell that allows an adjacent finger to host a pull for its neighbor, as your guitar will only be double raise, double lower unless modified. At 5&5, I'd say your guitar may have had a triple raise mod, or there may already be a gizmo or two on it.
As to value, due to their weight and numbers (there's oodles of these things out there), it'll be worth a titch over a grand, say between 11 and 12.
I happen to like my MSA a bunch
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 3:28 pm
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BTW: You didn't say what sort of work you need done, and whether you were gonna tackle it yourself. But my hat's off to Bud, Reece and the rest of the MSA folks for making such an easy guitar to work on.
I thought there was a big steel guitar shop in Louisiana, but I can't recall the name.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Bo Borland
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South Jersey -
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 7:18 pm
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5&4 was a standard MSA Classic. This one looks like my old one, but they all look the same.
What's the serial # .I sold mine about 4 years ago |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 7:53 pm
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It appears to be a model CS-10 plywood/mica guitar from '73 or '74. The tuning and setup can be gleaned by any experienced pedal steeler by looking at puller layout the bottom of the instrument. With the ballsy p/w sound and the 5+4 layout, it would make a "boffo" C6th or a decent E9th guitar.  |
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John Gilman
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Jericho, VT USA
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