Amp shopping: Nashville 1000 vs 112?

Brandon Bankes · From: Zanesville, Ohio

Hey folks. So I'm looking for a new steel amp. I'm doing a total upgrade of equipment since I just landed a gig playing with a country band around Ohio. We're going to be doing a lot of fairs, festivals, and in the winter, casinos, clubs, etc.

So anyway, I've been debating which of these two amps to get for a while. I have been using a Fender Twin but I'm looking for something a little more sterile and clean sounding. The weight of the Fender doesn't bother me too much but something 15 pounds lighter might be nice.

So, whats your experience with these two amps? I like the fact the NV1000 has a 15" speaker, bigger cabinet meaning better low end response. But, I've also read the NV 112 is a better sounding amp overall. Is there a big difference tone wise between the two?

I know a lot of this is preference but just wondering what experiences have been from guys who have both or have switched from the NV1000 to 112.

Thanks!
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Larry Jamieson · From: Walton, NY USA

Hello Brandon,
If you mike your amp, the Nashville 112 will work good for you. It is only 80 watts, so if you play bigger venues and do not mike it, it may not cut it.
The Nashville 1000 is 300 watts and very clean sounding. It will handle any size venue but weights about the same as a Twin, 65 pound range compared with about 43 pounds for the 112.
I have played through a 1000 for several years now.
It has always worked great, no problems. I only wish it were lighter to carry...
Larry J.

CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

i have & prefer the Nash 1000
it kicks butt compared to the 112
especially for outdoor or live gigs
havin' the neo magnet will lighten it's weight by 6lbs

Johnny Thomasson · From: Texas, USA

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

For the variety of gigs your doing, the Nash 1000 is a better bet .. the extra power will come in very handy at times ! Neo magnet is also a good idea.
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Adam Sorber · From: Pennsylvania, USA

I would choose the Nash 1000 over the 112
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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

If you are playing big stages..the 1000 is the way to go. The 112 on an outdoor stage in "the air" will be lost. There is no comparison on a big outdoor stage. The 1000 is a 300 watt amp , the 112 is an 80 watt amp, they shouldn't even be in the same sentence together !

I don't understand why the Fender Twin Reverb you are using is not cutting it ...The Fender TR is and has been a choice of Steel players for decades, can you elaborate ?

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Brandon Bankes · From: Zanesville, Ohio

Tony,

To me the Twin sounds a little dirtier than a Peavey.. which I like in some instances, but overall, I'm looking for that really sterile sound.

Another plus for me is the XLR out on the back of the amp, as I do a lot of recording and its nice to have that option. I'm not looking to get rid of the Twin. Just experimenting with sounds.

Thanks for all the comments guys.
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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

Brandon ok, may I ask, are you sure your Twin is up to snuff ? It is way different than the PV I would agree but I have never heard it defined as dirtier...which to me implies some break up or drive. I currently use a 71 TR and find it quite the beast ! I also used a 70 TR for about 20 years, a Nashville 1000 for a few years and still do own a Nashville 400 which I never use anymore.

I would agree however that the PV's are very sterile...maybe you should also consider a used Nashville 400 which I think is the best of the PV Steel amps. Good luck

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Greg Cutshaw · From: Corry, PA, USA

Why not consider a pair of used Peavey Nashville 400's (with factory or other tone mods). Lots of power and you can run one two depending on the venue. Most go for about $350 used, a bargian for such a powerful amp tailored for steel with a 15" speaker.

Greg

Brandon Bankes · From: Zanesville, Ohio

Tony, I believe my Twin is where it should be. I just got the tubes changed and its fairly new. I also should mention that I own a 65' reissue.

I guess I didn't mean "dirty" in a bad way. I just have played both Peaveys in question and it definitely sounded a little cleaner to me. I thought the string separation was more defined, things sounded more "compact" to me.

Anyways, I'll check out the 400 also.

Thanks everyone!
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Kenny Holycross · From: Ohio, USA

BRANDON, IF YOU FIND YOURSELF AROUND FRANKLIN, OH, BRING YOUR GUITAR & YOU CAN TRY MY 112 & COMPARE IT TO MY NV400 & DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.

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Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

I don't know why, but I have never been able to dial in "my sound" on a 1000 but can do so easily on a 112. I suggest you try them both before deciding. True the 112 is only 80 watts but for bigger venues, we mike it or use the direct Low-Z line-out to the PA anyway, so that's never been an issue for me.
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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

The 112 is a great little amp but it was not designed or introduced to replace the N1000 or previous hi powered PV amps. I guarantee it was not developed to compete with a Twin Reverb ! It was developed to fit a niche' in the market which it does very well.
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Dick Sexton · From: Greenville, Ohio

Brandon,

Don't miss a chance to go to the OSGA Jam on the 22nd of this month, there in Columbus. You will have a chance to hear and compare amps, from racks to vintage. I'm going to try to make it, I'll have my NV400 with an Eminence 15" speaker. About the same weight now as my NV112. The lighter weight I can handle and love the head room.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=212380

Pssst! Bring ear plugs...

Chris Harvey · From: California, USA

The 112 is a great amp. For bigger gigs I have a PX-300 that I run out of the nash 112 preamp to. The PX is essentially the power section of the Nash 1000 with the 15" speaker etc. It gives some flexibility and power if needed (and you can find one for a great price) as well as breaks up the weight. Buy one of the older 112's so you can change out the chips easier if need be. I've played some larger rooms with a 112 without any troubles but, in all fairness, the band plays at reasonable volumes.

Ken Metcalf · From: San Antonio Texas USA

Think long term with an amp decision.
finance the difference and talk with Ken Fox.
or get the best you can get an amp is a big deal with tone.
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Randall Meeker · From: Whitehouse, Ohio, USA

After battling with rigs of all sizes and shapes, inside small clubs, outside on patios, big stages with rock bands (Molly Hatchet, Charlie Daniels Band) and opening for up and coming acts (Justin Moore) it boils down to the sound. Whatever it takes to get the sound you want/your band wants.
We play a lot of one night stands - so the equipment weight is an issue as is size. I currently use a Roland Cube 80x (solid state with amp modeling) and it runs direct to the PA board - I take an out off of that and run an IEM (in ear monitor) mixer to blend my steels with the monitor mix from the band and balance the two feeds myself. We run a quiet stage for a six piece band - no stage monitors just IEMs - the loudest thing on stage is the drums and we shield them. When we play "festival stage" meaning an hour set with a quick change between bands we do not use the IEMs and I will use the same rig and sometimes add a Second Roland Cube to push the sound to a level where I can hear for intonation.
My signal still goes to the house mix because we are playing modern rockin' country - I play lots of pedal supplementing with Lap Steels when the going gets really nasty and the sound required is "dirty"
The other rigs have included Three different Fender Amps (70's Twin Reverb, Reissued Pro Reverb, Steel King) Peaveys (Don't like their sound) and anything that I can lay my hands on.
I'd love to tour with a Webb, Standel, or an old Randall but for reliability having two in the trailer makes a lot of sense. I am actually investigating going without an amp entirely unless needed for the "Festival Staging" by using a Boss ME-70 which has all the sounds of my current rig (Roland Cube) plus more compression, reverbs, delays, looping and other features...research is done - I just haven't picked up the unit yet.
Bottom line - it's all about the sound. Sounds simple and it should be - whatever makes that sound is your voice. Steel Rules - Play On!
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