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Topic: More trouble for Gibson |
John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 6:01 am |
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| My only comment, "surely Gibson is not the only one". |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 7:05 am
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| In reality, according to the sworn affidavit of Fish and Wildlife Service agent Kevin Seiler, the wood was unfinished β a violation of the Lacey Act. ... βIt is clear that Gibson understands the purpose of the Lacey Act, and understands that β¦ fingerboard blanks are not finished fingerboards and thus Gibson is aware that its order for fingerboard blanks was an order for contraband ebony wood or ebony wood which is illegal to possess," Seiler wrote. |
IMHO, this business of insisting that the fingerboards be "finished" is a crock, and has absolutely nothing to do with endangered woods. What difference does whether or not it's finished matter to the depletion of the wood?
I have always understood the intent of this law was to protect endangered species. I'm sure we'll hear more legalistic diatribes about the letter of this law, but none of this convinces me, and I doubt it will convince most people.
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| My only comment, "surely Gibson is not the only one". |
Yeah, it is indeed hard to picture that Gibson is the only guitar manufacturer importing unfinished Indian rosewood, which has been the mainstay of the rosewood for guitar building since 1970.
All my opinions, naturally. |
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Dave Hopping
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Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 7:45 am
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This month's Guitar Player Magazine has an editorial about the Gibson situation.
EDIT:A (very) populous nation on the other side of the planet finds it legal to export finished counterfeit Gibson guitars to the United States.Does this mean that that nation's laws take precedence over US trademark protection statutes?
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:06 am
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| I read somewhere that Fender and Martin received shipments at the same time as Gibson, and from the same shipping lot number. Don't know if that's true or not though. Seems kinda unlikely. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:30 am
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They don't seem to care about the stockpile of drugs and people that were imported illegally.
Anyway let's talk about Steel Guitar.
After they've done away with capitalism who will build Guitars? |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:32 am
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"After they've done away with capitalism who will build Steel Guitars?"
Sri Lankans! BTW; my Fingertip is Rosewood and Maple. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:39 am
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| can you prove your wood is legal? Did you import it illegally or did you purchase it from someone else who imported it illegally? If I take your guitar out of the USA will they let me bring it back in? |
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:42 am
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| I can't prove any of that Bo! There was one guy who got screwed out of a whole shipment of antique pianos because of the Lacey Act. He lost the pianos, and had to pay a hefty fine. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 8:48 am
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| Hello, Be sure your PSG is made of all Formica recycled from a used kitchen table top. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 9:01 am
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It's really hard to discuss this topic without turning to politics. As much as it makes my blood boil, I'd like to suggest that people take their rants about Gibson vs. the Feds to Facebook or some other pol-friendly venue.
American musicians are largely on the same side of this issue, so any opinions posted here would either be "preaching to the choir" or "get a rope" - flame bait in either case. Let's try to restrict this topic to news information only, okay?
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Bo Legg
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 11:07 am
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| Arch? We need some kittens. |
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 3:52 pm
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 3:57 pm
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Bo,THOMAS KATT will be glad to help ya'll out,But he dose'nt come cheap,He won't work for that chicken of the sea crap,,he has acquired a taste for fresh blue fin tuna,YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 4:01 pm
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Steven Finley
From:
California, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2011 4:36 pm
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This is a photo of Country Singer Tom Bovine's dog
"Longpaw Bovine" (whose fur resembles the color of Tom's hair). Longpaw can howl in Tom's key.
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