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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 9:47 am |
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Please give me an example when LKV is used. What does and will it do?
Thanks, TommyG...
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 10:21 am
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| it will do whatever you set it up to do. |
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 10:28 am
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| No one can answer your question until you tell us what change(s) are on the lever. There isn't just one change on this lever that everyone uses. |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 10:41 am
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Taking a leap and assuming you might be asking about the B to Bb change that comes standard on many current new steels, and that so many people use...
It gives you a b5 chord tone in a "no pedals" position
Will move the 3rd to b3 for a minor chord with pedals down (but may need a split tuning screw or rod to play in tune)
Gives a very direct way to play the descending minor-minor/major7-minor7-minor6 line found prominently in a few songs
Allows for some very sweet I to II chord moves (or IV to V, etc.) in single notes or harmony
and lots more. All assuming you meant lowering string 5 (and 10, usually) from B to Bb. |
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 12:11 pm LKV actuation?
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Here's a stupid, newbie, question. I've never had a LKV on a guitar.
How do you hit the left vertical knee lever? Do you lift your whole leg or do you raise your knee up with the angle of your foot? Maybe it's a combination of the two. When you are stomping on a pedal, it seems like it would be a foot movement, but when you are off of the pedals, now what? A whole leg lift using your hip muscles or do you press your toes to the floor?
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 12:28 pm
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| it's a ballet movement. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 3:49 pm
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Tommy: to embellish one of Mark's suggestions (again, assuming you are lowering 5 and 10 a half-step; B-A#), if you engage the lever and move down two frets you get a ninth chord of the major chord with no pedals. this is a good way to move from I to IV. So: open chord at fret 5 ( A major=I); engage LKV and go down two frets (A9th) then go to a D chord(=IV) wherever you like.
Tom: yes, with pedals down I pivot up using my foot; without pedals down, I left my whole leg from my hip.
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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 18 Aug 2011 3:52 pm Very Helpful
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Thanks for all the help...keep it coming. I need it all.
TommyG...
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2011 1:32 pm
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"How do you hit the left vertical knee lever?"
It's a knee lever? Oh man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Now I won't have to sit so close to the guitar! |
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Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 19 Aug 2011 8:40 pm
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The heel must come off the ground to use the vertical lever, regardless of whether you are pressing pedals or not, unless you stand up.  I use my LKV to lower B's on 5 and 10 a half step, which is perhaps the most common change. I rarely use it with no pedals, but thanks to Dan for the suggestion. If I do use it by itself, I try to keep my foot positioned over AB and raise my heel off the ground. Its less of a ballet move and more like a dog taking a leak.  In order of frequency I use it most with pedals A+B for a minor chord or half diminished 7th, then with A+B+E lower for a full diminished 7th chord, then with just A for an augmented chord, and least occasionally with BC for a diminished chord. Depending on the root string, there are lots of other chords it enables, but these are the basic functions. Its essentially used with Pedal A as a Half Pedal A in most circumstances, which means you can do most of these changes without it, albeit with a lot more practice and feel. Going from Pedal A Off to Half Pedal A raise is one instance where it doesnt work smoothly.
There are other options for the LKV, and Im sure someone will post alternatives here soon enough.
Clete. |
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 21 Aug 2011 10:12 pm
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Thanks to all for the advice on how to actuate LKV.
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