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Topic: List your favorite E9 teaching material |
William Johnson
From: Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 9:54 am
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After viewing another thread, I thought it may be a good idea to list your ONE favorite PSG E9 teaching material, as related to each of the lesson content below:
1. Beginners
2. Blocking
3. Intros, Walks, Fills
4. Playing melody and solos
5. PSG Related Music Theory
6. B6th on E9
7. Established E9 non-standard pedals & pulls
Please try to list as much free material as possible.
I hope is helpful to all. I know I was always tempered to stop one lesson and start another, thinking it's better, and continuity from skill to skill is often lost. This might also encourage someone to assemble a new complete set of PSG lessons.
BTW: How do I set this up so, members can make their choices by listing new or voting on ones already listed? It seems they would need to be inside one thread so it can be reviewed in one location. Is this what the Poll Question section below is about?
Thanks,
billy _________________ William Johnson (Billy)
Statesboro, GA
Sho Bud Student / Emmons DB E9
Sierra DB E9 / ZUM DB E9 / Derby DB E9 Marlen E9 / BMI E9
Mosrite Ventures '69 / Gibson Cherry ES345 / Custom 'Billie-Tele' Telecaster / Gibson '78 J45 / Custom 'P-Strat' Squire Stratocaster / Epi Parlor
Fender '69 Deluxe Reverb / Peavey NV400 + Peavey TubeFex + Goodrich 7A MatchBox & Pedal |
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John Scanlon
From: Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 11:19 am
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Listing just one is hard to do - for example, I've gotten great advice on blocking from several different sources. Not much of this is free in every instance, but here goes:
1. Beginners - Bruce Bouton, or Joe Barcus on YT for free
2. Blocking - Palm, Jeff Newman; Pick, Mickey Adams free on YT
3. Intros, Walks, Fills - Winnie Winston
4. Playing melody and solos - melody, Winnie Winston; solos, Mickey Adams
5. PSG Related Music Theory - Mickey Adams/Winnie Winston(tie)
6. B6th on E9 - none, or very little, I've personally run across for beginners like me - heard Don Sulesky is great, though.
7. Established E9 non-standard pedals & pulls - none, or very little, I've personally run across for beginners like me.
This is just one beginner's viewpoint, and I certainly haven't reviewed all instructional material out there to compare, but YouTube is by far the most invaluable teaching resource that's free. _________________ Click here for the Index to Mickey Adams's YouTube video lessons
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Dick Sexton
From: Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 11:54 am Favorite?
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Billy, I'm nobody in the steel guitar world, but that is no ones fault but my own. And for sure, not the great instructors that have provided such super learning material, since even before I put on my first set of picks. I got my first single neck E9th steel around 79/80, but before I ordered that steel, I bought a copy of Winnie Winston's "Pedal Steel Guitar". Even though I didn't really know what I was reading, most of it foreign to me, I was exposing myself to steel guitar in one of the best ways possible. Countless hours I studied that book. By the time I got my first steel in hand, I was up and running. It covered six, of the seven points you've listed.
1. Beginners
2. Blocking
3. Intros, Walks, Fills
4. Playing melody and solos
5. PSG Related Music Theory
6. C6th on E9
From assembly, to how various types of changers work. The copedants of the greatest players then. Music theory and so much more.
Since that book, I've found a lot of redundancy in teaching material. Which of course stands to reason. I believe I would be hard pressed to find anything any better for a rank beginner. I also think builders should give a copy with every starter steel sold. There might be fewer failed attempts at learning steel guitar. JMO of course.
One more thing... Just like there are steel guitar owners, and not players. There are also steel guitar instructional material owners and not learners of steel guitar instructional material. Having a course on a persons book shelf will not, a steel guitar player make. I speak from experience... |
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William Johnson
From: Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 12:53 pm
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I thought that listing one favorite per subject group per player, would keep it from being overwhelming to the learner. Also, I am trying to determine how to convert this posting into a polling or voting type thread, so the info/data points to the most popular of each teaching material group' then, at a glance one could determine the most popular of each level of steel instruction.
Some teaching material may only refer to a web page, and not a book, so URLs are welcome.
It should be a huge benefit to a player trying to turn the next corner of playing skills.
Suggestions on best way to develop this thread welcome.
Thanks,
billy _________________ William Johnson (Billy)
Statesboro, GA
Sho Bud Student / Emmons DB E9
Sierra DB E9 / ZUM DB E9 / Derby DB E9 Marlen E9 / BMI E9
Mosrite Ventures '69 / Gibson Cherry ES345 / Custom 'Billie-Tele' Telecaster / Gibson '78 J45 / Custom 'P-Strat' Squire Stratocaster / Epi Parlor
Fender '69 Deluxe Reverb / Peavey NV400 + Peavey TubeFex + Goodrich 7A MatchBox & Pedal |
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Clete Ritta
From: San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 4:47 pm
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Bruce Boutons DVD, though not free, covers the essential basics for any beginner. It took me thru year one of the learning curve. Playing along with the radio helped develop my intonation and timing.
As far as free material, I think its pretty hard to beat the number of videos posted by Mickey Adams on YouTube, in both the scope of topics and material covered. He also has a very good written course with DVD for sale.
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William Johnson
From: Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 5:09 pm
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Yea, Mickey Adams stuff is excellent.
billy _________________ William Johnson (Billy)
Statesboro, GA
Sho Bud Student / Emmons DB E9
Sierra DB E9 / ZUM DB E9 / Derby DB E9 Marlen E9 / BMI E9
Mosrite Ventures '69 / Gibson Cherry ES345 / Custom 'Billie-Tele' Telecaster / Gibson '78 J45 / Custom 'P-Strat' Squire Stratocaster / Epi Parlor
Fender '69 Deluxe Reverb / Peavey NV400 + Peavey TubeFex + Goodrich 7A MatchBox & Pedal |
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Stan Joyce
From: California, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 8:04 pm
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Emmons E9 52 week course is excellent way to get going on steel. |
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Walter Bowden
From: Wilmington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2011 5:01 pm
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Hi William,
IMHO, Jeff Newman's "Pedal Steel Guitar Techniques" has helped me a lot.
He covers basics and more intermediate stuff in the same DVD/CD set for an E9th 3 pedal-3 knee Emmons tuning steel.
"Right Hand Alpha" is also sort of a Gold Standard for palm blocking, as evidenced by the amount of really good players who recommend it on this forum.
Joe Wright has a very good "pick blocking" technique DVD, but I'm still trying to get the palm part right.
I've picked up A LOT from Mickey Adam's free You Tube series and I've picked up A LOT from good people in the forum too who gladly share tabs, exercises, etc. In other words; "You've come to the right place for steel guitar".
There is a good thread of Paul Franklin on this forum offering a left hand bar control exercise you need to check out.
These are just my observations and some investment of $$ to buy the good instructional stuff may be necessary, but the payoff is worth it, I think.
One thing everyone will tell you on the courses and this forum (and I agree) is that whatever courses, scales, and other playing stuff you get, practice is the key to learning and I guess that's true for what ever you try to learn.
Best wishes and still trying to learn to get better, Walter _________________ Emmons S10, p/p, Nashville 112, Zion 50 tele style guitar, Gibson LP Classic w/Vox AC30, Fender Deluxe De Ville and a Rawdon-Hall classical |
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John Scanlon
From: Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2011 9:00 pm
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I know I'm detracting from the initial point of this thread by adding another name to my list, but I realized that I left another great, free resource off of my list - I think it slipped my mind mainly because he's relatively new to the You Tube teaching scene (at least to me, he is).
And that's Paul Sutherland. He has about ten vids on YT all uploaded within the last year or so. He offers some different thoughts from other teachers, yet still aimed at the beginner (like me). It's always helpful to have several resources. His B/C pedals vids and vibrato vids are chock full of helpful info. _________________ Click here for the Index to Mickey Adams's YouTube video lessons
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2011 9:37 am
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"A Manual of Style." Think that's what it was call. Hadda lotta great stuff in it. |
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J. Michael Robbins
From: Dayton, OH now in Hickory, NC
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Posted 25 Jul 2011 3:14 pm "A Manual of Style"
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John Billings wrote: |
"A Manual of Style." Think that's what it was call. Hadda lotta great stuff in it. |
This book and CD is available from Sho Pro's web site for $20: http://www.showprosteelguitars.com/music.html
Mike _________________ 1970 Marlen D-10, 1971 Professional, 1973 Pro II, 1977 Marlen D-10, 1978 Marlen D-10, 1980 Marlen D-10 |
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Gerald Menke
From: Stormville NY, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2011 8:53 am
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I would have to say if I could take only one book or one video with me to some desert isle - which sounds mighty tempting right about now - I would take Paul Franklin's Concepts for E9 video or Winnie Winstons's book, Pedal Steel Guitar.
Paul's video might have some advanced ideas in it, but you get to see the master at work, hear his tone unadorned or obscured, and there are some life-changing ideas in it. The technique he uses for getting chimes, or his pivoting concept come to mind. Amazing and inspiring.
Winnie's book almost never leaves my music stand, some of the arrangements in there are just fantastic, I never tire of playing them.
Good luck and don't forget to pick with authority!
Gerald |
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