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Topic: I need Musical Ear Training |
Sam White R.I.P.
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Coventry, RI 02816
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Posted 9 Jun 2011 5:33 am |
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Does any one know where and how I can get Musical Ear Training so I can hear the cord changes. I was told if I can't hear the cord changes I will never be able to play the Steel Guitar.HELP Please some one Help me out here.I need help badly as I want to be able to do better than I do. I play Solo but I can not play with tracks as I do not hear the cord changes. I do have hearing Aids and I still do not hear the cord changes.
Sam White
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Member of the Florida Steel Guitar Club,and member of Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association |
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Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2011 7:37 am
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Try the below site. Do you have a piano keyboard? That would really help.
http://www.good-ear.com/servlet/EarTrainer
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Sherman L. Willden
It is easy to play the steel guitar. Playing so that the audience finds it pleasing is the difficult act. |
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Glenn Uhler
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Trenton, New Jersey, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2011 3:08 pm Headphones
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Sam,
In addition to the ear trainer, you might want to try a pair of headphones to hear the tones more clearly. Hearing aids and ear buds are great, but sometimes their frequency response is limited. Headphones often have better bass response.
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Ellis Miller
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Cortez, Colorado, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2011 4:21 pm
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Learning and using the number system is a good way to get on track. It is all about listening for and identifying the relationships within scale steps and chord progressions.
You will get many good suggestions... whatever works.
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Ellis Miller
Don't believe everything you think.
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Jim Hollingsworth
From:
Way out West
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Posted 9 Jun 2011 6:51 pm Biab
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Band in a Box is an excellent program for learning & practicing. It primarily is used to play songs so you can practice, but among it's many other features are actual games that teach pitch & chord recognition. AND ... the best thing is you can get countless free song files that you can load & then learn the chords of swing & jazz tunes. I use it all the time.
Jim
PGMusic ,com |
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Elton Smith
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2011 7:20 pm
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Sam its hard to do with a steel guitar.But to stay in time and hear the change comming up .Pat your foot.A lot of players do this.
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2011 5:54 am
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Sam,
Elton is right. Start tapping your foot. Most country songs are in 4/4 time...so count 1,2,3,4 repeat 1,2,3,4. On the first beat you will usually hear the chord change (change in pitch).
Basic country songs have only three chords and the chord changes are very pronounced. Chords commonly change on the 2nd beat...so listen for this pattern also.
This is basic advice,it's not the whole "story" but practice and it should get you started. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 11 Jun 2011 7:18 am
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On the internet you can find the chords to almost any song you like. They are mostly correct. Or buy songbooks. That's where I found the chord progressions.
Gradualy you may not need them anymore, because after a while you will hear them.
I hope it helps!
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 11 Jun 2011 10:58 am
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ear training is not necessarily difficult but it can be long to get Sam
for beginners : since everything in life comes in twos, so it is w: musik
you get happy : major & you get sad : minor
it's the 3rd note of the scale that determines which is which
just a lil' half step makes a big diff
now since you got those 2, you get another 2 : the Sevenths : Major or Minor
as to the beat you get : down : 1 2 3 4 & you get : up : 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
tappin' your foot w: the tune comes easy - rhythm is supposed to be a natural to man since he's got a heartbeat thus pulse
may i suggest you learn the major scale in C & it's 7 modes : C - D minor - E minor - F - G7 - A minor - B minor b5 - Octave : C
thus those 7 modes will be used to understand & apply the number system (Roman or Nashville) in chords & notes
those 7 notes are the white keys on a piano & the 5 intervals are the black keys
total : 12 notes
when listening to a tune you must find the key it's in - usually the first chord is the root (key) then the changes apply : can go to the 4, the 2, the 5, the 6 - most country & blues tunes use 3 or 4 chords : 1 - 4 - 5 or 1 - 4 - 2 - 5 & back to the 1 ( root/key)
Sam, try to get together w: a musician who knows theory, who can be simple/logical & help you hear/distinguish the notes & chords
last but not least : if you can sing/hum it, you can play it : try doin' that & findin' the notes on your instrument |
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Sam White R.I.P.
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Coventry, RI 02816
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Posted 13 Jun 2011 7:25 am
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Thanks a lot every one I will try what you guys have all told me.Once again thank You everyone.
Sam White
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Dynalap lap 8 String Lap Steel Fender frontman 25B speaker changed Boss TU-12H Tuner.Founder and supporter of the Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association Founder of the New England Steel Guitar Association and the Greeneville TN Steel Jams and now founder of the North Carolina Steel Guitar Jams. Honorary member of the Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association,Member of The New England Steel Guitar Association.
Member of the Florida Steel Guitar Club,and member of Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association |
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Harry Dove
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2011 8:29 pm
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| Well if Beethoven could perform completly deaf then apparently you don't have to hear the changes to be able to play. Obviously you mean play by ear. I used to play in a band where a couple of the other players said they didn't need chord charts. They used to piss me off. If I played anything more than a very simple break they would almost always go to the wrong chord and leave me hanging. Anything more than 3 or 4 chord songs and they were in the woods. I tried over and over to spice up the songs. I finally quit the band. |
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Bryan Daste
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2011 10:40 pm
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There's a good book by Jack Hatfield called How to Play By Ear. You can find it here:
http://hatfieldmusic.com/page3.html
You'll have to scroll way down the page - it's on the right hand side, with a black and white cover.
Forumite John McClung teaches an E9 method over the internet that emphasizes ear training. Check him out here:
http://www.steelguitarlessons.com/
And as I understand it, Beethoven was able to compose music after he went deaf, not perform it. You've got to be able to hear changes to play with a group! |
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Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2011 12:46 pm
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you know Jeff Newman has some great course directed exactly at what you are seeking - cant remember the exact name, but i'm sure its on his site in the links section.
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