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Jon Hyde


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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 10:57 am    
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Been working on learning a bunch of Waylon songs with a band and am having a great time with it but I'm stumped by Black Rose. Anyone have an idea of how he's getting all these great sounds? Here's a youtube clip for those of you who don't have it on your phones like you should oughta...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdU3HfknRg
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Billy Tonnesen

 

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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 3:37 pm    
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I think you are hearing a Lead Standard Guitar bending the strings. I do not hear a "Steel" on this recording. Could be wrong !!
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 4:27 pm    
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I agree. Sounds like a B/G bender Tele. Not steel guitar.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 5:41 pm    
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The first guitar you hear is a Tele...the second is Mooney.
I saw and heard him play this song with Waylon about the time this record came out...he played it just like this...Mooney wasn't no ordinary man.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 5:46 pm    
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To answer your question,Jon...Mooney had a kinda"dobroish"tuning on one neck of his steel...that would explain the open strings on this cut...in the key of G...

"ancient Chinese secret,huh?"
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Tommy Wayne

 

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Nevada, USA
Post  Posted 29 Apr 2012 8:29 pm     Mooney dobro like tuning
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Never knew that, will go back and re-listen. Cool info Steve!
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Jon Hyde


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2012 5:49 am    
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Steve, thanks for that! I had to figure someone here in Forum-land knew the definitive answer! This forum is an amazing place. No ordinary man indeed...
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 30 Apr 2012 7:30 am    
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Mooney used to carry a wah-wah pedal so he could cover James Burton's part on one of those instrumentals they did together...was it"Moonshine"?

First steel player I ever saw or heard with a sitar bar...

I got to hang with him every day for three weeks on a tour we did with Waylon when I played guitar with George Jones...he was a one of a kind in every respect.
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Jon Hyde


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2012 10:02 am    
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Steve, that had to have been 3 weeks to remember! I can't even imagine.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2012 10:34 am    
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There are many people on the Forum who were good friends with Mooney...those three weeks worth of shows are the only times I ever had any chance to talk to him...we really didn't talk shop(he was not a shop talk guy,as far as I could tell,and neither am I)...he told me about writing"Crazy Arms",and talked about Wynn Stewart,and Webb Pierce,and a lot of people he knew in the 50s and 60s...we had a few drinks...I really enjoyed getting to hang around with Ralph...I've been very fortunate in my career to be able to spend time with people who I consider the"Mount Rushmore"guys...Mooney certainly fits that description,at least for me.
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