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Topic: F# to G# first string raise on LKR on SKH |
Pat Wasemann
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 May 2011 12:38 pm |
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| I'm trying to change my setup on my Emmons SKH, moving my E lowers to my RKL and my F# to G# raise to the LKR as well as the 2nd string half step raise. The problem is I can't get enough travel to raise the F# all the way to G#. Another problem is the amount of travel involved to be able to move it that far. I'm about to the point of selling it and getting a guitar that I can have the copedent and setup that I want on it. I'm trying to put as much of Mike Johnson's copedent on it that I can. Any help would sure be appreciated. If it can't be done on a SKH without cutting, grinding and welding, I'd like to know. |
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 17 May 2011 1:45 pm
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Pat, I assume you've already placed the pull-rod in the third hole in the changer, the longest bellcrank position, and you've lengthened the pedal travel to max?...if this is the case you may try a heavier gauge string. If this still doesn't allow the travel thats all you can do. Ive not seen an SKH that would not accommodate this pull...
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jay thompson
From:
east peoria, il USA
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Posted 17 May 2011 1:53 pm F#-G# raise
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I have an '84 SKH and have that raise, E flat-E raise, and G#-F# lower on the RKL which I believe is the standard. Should work as well on LKR.
Regards, Jay Thompson |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 17 May 2011 8:05 pm
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Because of the shorter string length behind the nut, the SKH model is actually capable of longer pulls than long keyhead Emmons guitars. So the F# to G# raise shouldn't be a problem.
There's two sizes of 4-hole Emmons bellcranks, and you want to make sure to use one of the longer ones and put the pull rod on the top hole on the bellcrank. On my SKH, the travel is fairly short and it's not stiff at all, even with 4 pulls.
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Mike Cass
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Posted 18 May 2011 8:47 pm
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First off, remove the raise rod and nylon tuning nut from the guitar and back off the #1 split tuning screw located in the block behind the changer. Retune the open F# note if necessary, then put the end of a Phillips head screwdriver into the top hole(#1, closest to the body)in the 1st string raise bar, pick the F# string and gently push forward on the raise bar until you get the G# note. This is sort of the all/pull version of hand tuning the changer. If you can get the G# then its not the changer. If you can't get G# then tighten up your #1 drop return spring until the lower doesnt interfere with the raise(thats known as lift-off)and you achieve G#.
If that gets you to G# then this may be the problem:
If your LKR is the type which is mounted to a bracket with a shoulder-bolt then the forward and backward knee lever stops are the two small 6/32 cap screws which are threaded thru the mounting bracket below the level of the shoulder bolt and under the lever, and they're nearly always factory set for the E's to Eb unless another copedant is specified at ordering time. You'll notice that the heads of those screws are held off of the bracket with small aluminum spacers. Remove the forward stop screw and spacer(the one closest to the keyhead w/guitar upside down)then screw the cap screw(minus the spacer)in from the other side of the bracket, leaving the threaded end as the new forward stop, thus increasing the distance between the forward and back stops. Rod it up and try the change. If you're still lacking a bit, repeat the procedure on the backstop screw as well. That should give you more than enough then to get to G#.
Ive done this on a number of SKH LG guitars w/F# to G# on the LKR and I always managed to get the G# note.
a pic of that area of the guitar would be helpful though to correctly ascertain which type of LKR you have and whether this is the true fix for your problem. Feel free to e me such a pic to: mwillsteel@comcast.net and I'll see if its the correct fix for your guitar.
sincerely,
MC |
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