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Topic: Good examples of "modern" E9 changes? |
David Ellison
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California, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 3:42 pm |
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| I've only ever used the basic 3/4 setup on an E9 pedal steel. What are some good examples of songs that feature the more recent pedal/knee lever changes? |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 4:17 pm
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Depends what you mean by "basic 3/4 setup." I would assume you mean standard ABC pedals plus:
K1: 4 & 8 lower 1/2 step
K2: 4 & 8 raise 1/2 step
K3: 2 lower, prob. 1 whole step with 1/2 step "feel-stop", often with 9 lower 1/2 step
But what's your K4?
The most common "recent" additional foot pedal seems to be the "Franklin" pedal--5, 6, and 10 all lowered a whole step. |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 4:31 pm
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Last edited by Dickie Whitley on 24 Feb 2011 6:35 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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David Ellison
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California, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 4:41 pm
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>>Depends what you mean by "basic 3/4 setup." I would assume you mean standard ABC pedals plus:
K1: 4 & 8 lower 1/2 step
K2: 4 & 8 raise 1/2 step
K3: 2 lower, prob. 1 whole step with 1/2 step "feel-stop", often with 9 lower 1/2 step
But what's your K4?
The steel I have now has that same 3/3 setup. My old MSA also had an F# - G# change on one lever.
I'm interested to hear some examples of the Franklin change and anything else players are using to get a different sound in modern country music. I'm just curious to hear what these changes sound like. Are they used on many recent country recordings? |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 4:54 pm
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| The 1st string F#->G# raise is such a common change today that it seems you'll hear it repeatedly on virtually every modern country song that uses steel. |
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Olie Eshleman
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Seattle, WA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 5:27 pm
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| I have a U12 that is now basically an EXE9 but without a D string. I had the D#>D 2nd string lower on RKR along with B>D raise on string 9, I moved those to P5 and added string 8 F#>G# as well. Mostly because I wanted the string 8 F#>G lower on that RKR. It's nice to get a 7th with pedals(A+B) down. (Thanks Dave Harmonson for the tip!) I Also put string 2 D#>C# lower on that same lever. I am very happy with these changes. Not sure if they sound 'modern' or not, cause I don't listen to much contemporary country. |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 6:24 pm
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| A track that stands out in mind for really hearing the sound of the 1st string F# to G# move is the signature lick on Garth Brooks' "That Summer". |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Feb 2011 9:10 pm
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1st string F# to G#, check out Alan Jackson's "Designated Drinker". In the solo, around 1:39, you will hear a little unison lick. That is one use for that change, probably the use you will hear the most. There are hundreds of songs that use that change.
Besides the basic 3+3 listed above, this change is probably the most used change in modern setups.
Also, check out this YouTube video of John Hughey playing "Look At Us". At around 1:48, you will hear him use the change along with the 2nd string to E to get a unison type sound. Watch his right knee activate the right knee right knee lever. That is the change.
Look At Us
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David Ellison
From:
California, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2011 8:43 am
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Thanks, everyone...
I know that the F# to G# change is very common. I used to use that myself when I had it on the steel I owned previously. What I'd really like to hear an example of is the fourth pedal that some people like Paul Franklin have added, and whatever changes people are using on their vertical knee levers.
Is this pedal not used by many players? I have no idea what that fourth pedal sounds like, but I'm really curious to find out. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 17 Feb 2011 12:57 am
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the Eb to E on string 2 coupled w: the F# to G# on string 1 has become pretty standard nowadays
having the B to A lower on strings 5 & 8 are useful when playing in the keys of D (fifth) - B (dom7) & A of course (root)at the 0 position 4 example |
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