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Topic: Suggested Listening for Texas Troubadour type music? |
John Castelletti
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Posted 8 Feb 2011 4:19 pm |
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I recently picked up "Almost to Tulsa: The Instrumentals" by the Texas Troubadours and cannot stop listening to it.
Being new to PSG (and solely playing in E9) its not always easy for me to tell E9 from C6 aside from the low notes but it seems there is a bit of each on here. I am really digging the drums being more upfront in the mix, and needless to say the playing by Emmons and Charleton (R.I.P) is fantastic.
I wasn't even a twinkle in my fathers eye when this stuff was being cut and am hoping you guys can point me to some other music in this vein. Renewed vigor for practice would be an understatement right now! |
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Mike Kowalik
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San Antonio,Texas
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Posted 8 Feb 2011 5:54 pm music......
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Sorry...I misread your post.....I thought you wanted a source for TT music.
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Jeremiah Wade
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Posted 8 Feb 2011 6:28 pm
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The Troubadours instrumentals are the best.
Listen to "Cool It" to train your ear on the different sounds of the two necks. The tune starts on the E9 neck and works through two choruses before modulating. The late great Buddy Charleton then switches necks mid-tune and completely changes the feel. After the acoustic guitar solo by the amazing Leon Rhodes it's back to the E9 through the remainder. You'll soon here the differences clearly. Many C6 sounds can be played on E9 and many E9 lick are also found ont the c6 neck. Happy Hunting. Cheers from Texas
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John Castelletti
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Posted 8 Feb 2011 8:59 pm
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| Thank you guys. Jeremiah, I definitely hear the difference after listening to Cool It. I appreciate you pointing that out. |
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Jon Hyde
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2011 9:44 pm
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| Check out "Corn pickin' and slick slidin'" by James Burton and Ralph Mooney. Also check Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant. Tons of good music in there! |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2011 4:51 am
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John,
To get a feel for where the Troubadours music came from I think you have to go back to the west coast western swing that was being played during and right after WWII. That is when big band style arrangements started merging with fiddles and steels with some Charlie Christian style guitar playing thrown in. I am not sure what CD's to recommend to you but do a search for Joaquin Murphey and/or Spade Cooley in the non-pedal section and you should find some good recommendations.
I did not know there was a Troubadours compilation available, I will have to order that, thanks for starting this thread. |
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David Ellison
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California, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2011 2:54 pm
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>>I think you have to go back to the west coast western swing
I agree. The jazzy c6 playing that the Troubadors are doing comes from western swing... they were doing a slightly more contemporary version of the music that was more about electric guitar and steel than the traditional fiddles, etc.
You should definitely get the album Brisbane Bop by Jimmie Rivers with Vance Terry on steel. Also Speedy West's albums with Jimmy Bryant on guitar... the best (IMO) is called Steel Guitar... but Country Cabin jazz is also really good. |
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David Ellison
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California, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2011 3:10 pm
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>>its not always easy for me to tell E9 from C6
As someone already said, most single note jazz playing is done on C6, but it's also used for more of an extended chord sound... especially 6th chords and 9th chords. It was the main tuning players used before pedals... the sound you hear on old Hank Williams recordings. It's also the tuning most associated with Hawaiian music. |
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John Castelletti
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Posted 9 Feb 2011 5:08 pm
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| Thanks for the suggestions guys, this is exactly what I was looking for. I am really looking forward to checking out the western swing stuff. While I have certainly been aware of the genre I have very little knowledge of where to begin digging and this is a huge help in pointing me into new directions. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 9 Feb 2011 7:13 pm
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Find a friend with a huge record collection and soak it all in. It's all great stuff. Little Jimmy Dickens, Ray Price, Johnny Paycheck's Little Darling records, Hank Thompson, Dick Curless' Live record, Merle Travis with Curly Chalker on the LP "Travis", The Buckaroos, and the list goes on and on.
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Ian Miller
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2011 12:03 am
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All great suggestions, one I would also like to make is to check out the LP's recorded by Merle Haggard's The Strangers (specifically THE INSTRUMENTAL SOUNDS OF... and INTRODUCING...), which I believe are included on one of the Bear Family Merle sets (vinyl copies are still floating around record shops and probably on Ebay if you get lucky). A little taste can be had if you can get ahold the three early 70's live Hag records (LIVE FROM MUSKOGEE, FIGHTIN' SIDE OF ME: LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA and I LOVE DIXIE BLUES) as each have one instrumental track from the band.
Sound is definitely an updated take on the Western swing style guitarist Roy Nichols and steeler Norm Hamlet grew up playing (by DIXIE BLUES, ex-Wills sideman Tiny Moore was on electric mandolin, hot hot hot!), but with that same modern touch of tight modal harmonies that make some of those Troubs track jump out and smack you. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 10 Feb 2011 1:04 am
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You might want to check the Emmons/Gatton stuff. Its a bit more modern sounding but has the same sort of aggressive over top sound. Steel guitar at its best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0reB9tkzyo
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