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Topic: Newbie U12 Questions |
Shane Glover
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Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2011 10:34 pm |
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Been seeing posts about U12's lately.I was wondering if some one could fill us new guys in. What are the advantages of playing a U 12 ? Can a guy play everything he plays on his E9 and then some ? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Shane
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 8:14 am
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The main advantage is weight..
The two necks are combined so with Es lowered the bottom 10 strings are the same as a C6th neck but tuned down a half step to B6th.
The top 8-9 strings are the same as E9th and standard tabs and lessons can be used.
D-10 is of course the standard but I believe a new guy starting would be okay on a Universal with some help from another steel player just like any PSG.
After playing a D-10 ... Switching is not for everyone.
I know.. it's only Universal but I like it!!
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 12:39 pm
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I don't know much about the B6 side of the tuning, (perhaps I would have learned it if I had a double neck,) but to me, the big advantage if a U-12 is all that extra bass. I drop my 11th string to C# on both the E-F raise knee lever for a bass note to the C# chord, and also on a different knee lever for a bass to the C# minor chord. I also drop my low B string down to A on the A pedal. Theoretically, this gives me a big, fat, full A chord, but realistically, I don't use that way. I mostly use it to play melody lines in the bass register.
Something must be said: a lot of players don't make full use of the D string, and since it's missing on a U-12, it's possible that players may overlook all the possibilities it provides.
Regardless of whether you prefer to raise your 9th strong up from B to D, (or as some do, raise your 9th and 10th to from B to D and G# to B respectively,) or like me, lower your 8th string, the D note is VERY important, and should not be overlooked simply because it's not on an open string.
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Dave O'Brien
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Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 5:38 pm U-12
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IMHO unless you are ONLY going to play ONE U-12 DON'T use the Jeff Newman set up. Most guitars flat the E's with either the LKR or RKL. If you play your U-12 that way you can always go back or play most "standard" guitars without consternation.
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 9:25 pm
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Unlike Mike, I play the B6 "side" of the U-12 far more than the E9th. I love being able to shift between an E9th world and a B6 world in the middle of a phrase, if I like. I've seen many people post that a U-12 can't do what a D-10 does - I've never played a D-10, so I can't speak to that. I do know that I love the weight, the versatility, and the range of the U-12.
Mine is set up as a B6 U-12, so it's more like an extended C6 - I play jazz, mostly. Soon I'll be getting a Bb6 U-12.
The pedal steel has an unbelievable range of possibilities, and can be set up to do almost anything you can dream up.
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David Wright
From:
Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 7:17 am
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I have played the Bb 6th my whole life, and have changed it around a bit to be able to get more e 9th changes on it, what I like most in the ability to go in out of the 2 tunings, it pretty much works the opposite of the Newman set up, but you can achieve the same thing...and it's half the guitar to carry, change strings, ect...
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Olie Eshleman
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 10:56 am
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| Having never played a D10 or done much with C6 myself, I love the extra low end of E9 and don't miss the D string one bit. Especially with the addition of a second electric guitar player to our band, I find baritone style comping to be a wonderful and rich sound, and with the standard U12 tuning you almost have all the chords/notes of standard E9 mirrored down a full octave. I kept all my levers in the same place as on my previous E9, pretty standard emmons config.....[/i] |
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Ron Randall
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Dallas, Texas, USA
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