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Bill Duve


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Post  Posted 6 Jan 2011 4:21 pm    
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Here in Western NY where the temperature can change 50 degrees in as many minutes, On any day my venerable BMI can sound like an Emmons and an hour later sounds like I had turned all the knobs on the amplifier blindfolded and come out sounding just awful. I had an MSA that did likewise, Am I cursed or do all steels act like that?
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2011 6:30 pm    
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Could be a variation in your electric power. Just a few volts drop can drastically effect your sound. (sound becomes tinny and weak)
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2011 6:56 pm     Re: Fair weather friend ?
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Bill Duve wrote:
do all steels act like that?


MSA Millenniums don't. The carbon fiber bodies are impervious to temperature changes.
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Mike Wheeler


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Delaware, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2011 8:07 pm    
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With your environment changing so fast, I'd suspect the humidity and temps are what's causing your issue. The higher the humidity, the more the highs are attenuated by the moisture suspended in the air.

Of course, it's possible your rig has an intermittent problem, but I still suspect the weather to be the cause.
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David Beckner


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Post  Posted 6 Jan 2011 8:24 pm     guessing
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I am no expert by no means so I am just taking a guess.If you are using a tube amp - could this be a sign of a tube going bad.
Also .if using a solid state amp - could this be a sign of maybe a transistor or some other component getting over heated??
Just guessing..
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Matthew Prouty


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Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 2:37 am    
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With all troubleshooting you have to look at all of the variables. One the steel, you said reacted the same as a different steel, while this does not eliminate the steel entirely it does make improbable that the steel is your problem.

What other factors are left?

You.

The Amp.

How do you feel when it gets cold or hot? Does it affect your playing?

What kind of amp are you using?

I have set up an played my first set under the setting desert sun, nearing 100 degrees in the late fall and as the last set around 1am kicked off it was already 70 degrees. My guitar and amp always sounded the same. Me on the other hand was getting bundled up to with stand the frigged night air rolling in off of the alfalfa fields.

Yes 70F is cold!

m.
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Alan Tanner


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Near Dayton, Ohio
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 3:29 am    
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Temperature, especially cold, will make speaker cones act strange also....I have played gigs where the temp dropped, and the sound went tinny. Different amps and tube and solid state.
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 8:03 am    
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I agree wit what Jim Bob Segwick said about the voltage! One place we play has varying power and it'll literally suck the "balls" out of your sound. One set it'll sound great and then you're all tinny and weak sounding the next. Sometimes it happens during a song and that's really bad........JH in VA.
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Billy Tonnesen

 

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Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 3:31 pm    
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Jim Bob and Jerry:
We've all played played with Line Voltage dropping way down, especially Outdoors where there's a 100 foot extension cord and everyone plugs into it. Also, Humidity will affect the Speaker Cone where it absorbs moisture in the Air and and can sound very "Mushy".
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Charles Davidson

 

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Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 3:56 pm    
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Worked in a hotel one time,some of the kitchen coolers and freezers were on the same lines as the lounge.We were a lounge lizard duo using an electric drum machine,Each time one of those coolers came on or off old Ralph [our drum machine] would rush or drag REAL bad. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Bill Duve


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Limestone .New York, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 8:51 pm    
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70 is not cold Matthew, Below 0 is cold !
But this building is 18 apt's all with electric heat and when they all go on it could make a voltage drop..Although I use a Vegas 400 amp thats just out of the shop and shouldnt bother it.
Maybe a cold nose could have something to do with the attitude of the player....
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Rich Peterson


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Moorhead, MN
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2011 9:28 pm    
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You are close enough to a couple big lakes that I suspect humidity is at least a major culprit.
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