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Topic: Vegas 400 Settings for Emmons P/P D10 |
William Kendrick
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Bedford Heights, Ohio, USA (Goes by first name "Bill")
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 10:39 am |
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I am trying to get a decent warm sound out of my PSG. To date, I have not been successful. Here is the sound I am searching for:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzHroQNbEvg&feature=related
I would like to know:
1. Which input to use.
2. Dial settings associated with that input.
Thank you.
Bill Kendrick
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Mike Kowalik
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 11:57 am Vegas 400 and p/p tone......
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The key is the settings of the mid/paramid and shift knobs.When they are opposite of each other they cancel out.Then you can get your tone dialed in by using the Low,Treble,and Presence knobs.Same goes for the Nashville 400 amp.
You have picked a very good amp for your p/p.....take the time to experiment with the knobs and you'll find a good tone.
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richard burton
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Posted 1 Jan 2011 10:05 pm
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Here's the ballpark settings that I used in that video.
Bear in mind that my Vegas has had the LeMay mod, so has slightly less middle, and more bass, than the standard Vegas.
If your pickup has a high output, use the lower input
I also used a digital delay, set at about 330 milliseconds, 3 or 4 repeats.
In the photo, the outer paramid knob is set on 800.
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William Kendrick
From:
Bedford Heights, Ohio, USA (Goes by first name "Bill")
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Posted 2 Jan 2011 2:01 pm Vegas 400 Settings for Emmons P/P D10
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Oh, yeah! What a difference! Thank you!
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Johnny Thomasson
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Texas, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2011 7:18 am
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| richard burton wrote: |
| I also used a digital delay, set at about 330 milliseconds, 3 or 4 repeats. |
Richard, that is very nice tone, and very nice playing as well. If you don't mind, I have a question about your delay settings.
You didn't say what kind of delay you were using. I use a Boss DD-20 which is supposed to be a pretty decent pedal, but I've never been able to get what I really want out of it. Which is basically the delay effect you have on this video. If I were to set it at 330ms with 3-4 repeats, it would sound terrible. There would be a very annoying slapback which I do not hear in your video. I usually run it at 150ms with feedback on zero. Again, this is not the sound I'm really after, but seems to be as close as I can get with the DD-20.
Any advice? Do I need to ditch the DD-20?
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richard burton
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Posted 3 Jan 2011 11:20 am
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If I know what the beats-per-minute are of the song that I am playing, I work out what the best delay time would be
eg if the song is, say, 92 BPM, I'll divide 60 by 92, which gives me 652 milliseconds.
Then I'll set the delay for 1/2 (or sometimes 1/4) of this, which is 326 milliseconds.
If you want to do the delay trick that Dave Hartley does, then you set the delay at 2/3, with just one repeat.
I set the delay mix so that the first repeat is about half as loud as the original note, with about 4 repeats.
I use an old Boss RDD20 half-rack delay unit.
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Johnny Thomasson
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Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2011 5:06 am
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OK, thanks. I'll try that. Hmm... maybe my problem is not so much not knowing how to set it as not knowing how to use it. I've been looking for a one-size-fits-all setting.
So how do folks deal with changing settings on the fly during a live performance?
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 5 Jan 2011 3:42 pm
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Thanks Richard for that beautiful playing (YouTube).
I have a Vegas 400, as well, and I noticed that your HIGH setting is set to "0".
Your sound and tone is right-on. I'm guessing your pickup gives you all the highs you desire without adjusting the high setting on the 400.
My paramid settings come closer together than yours, but I'm willing to give your entire settings a work-out. Of course, as obviously listed, I play a Williams all-pull and with the stock single coil pickup; and I'm always interested in other Vegas 400 players and how they set their "tone".
I don't use the V400 reverb (Holy Grail) and use Brad's Black Box. That's about it for effects. (Hilton volume pedal) However, I do have a Boss RV-3, and a Boss RV-5. I never could get the hang of using DELAY. (maybe cuz I don't play around enough with the "gizmos")
Would you admit that DELAY is a crucial part of your sound as to what we heard on YouTube?
Thanks for sharing your info.
Once again, smooth playing and beautiful tone. 
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 5 Jan 2011 10:04 pm
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I use too much delay, I'm sure (as it's a hangover from my gigging days), especially since the reverb packed up on my Vegas a few years ago.
I probably rely on it too much
I was asked in a recent post for the true sound of my Marlen, without any effects, so I did it here:
http://picosong.com/eKB/
from this post, which gives more details of my setup:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=195316 |
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