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Wally Taylor

 

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Hardin, Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 8:23 am    
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In the song, Farewell Party, and at the end of the song, Gene goes to the IV chord, but there is a minor or a progressive chord that he hits also...or that is the way my ears hear it. It occurs when he says, "When I'm gone" at the very end of the song.
Could someone please tell what the chord is as it is driving me nuts trying to figure it out? Shocked

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Wally
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Jim Eaton


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Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 8:51 am    
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I believe its a "Four Minor" that your looking for.
In the key of G it would be C - Cm - G.
JE:-)>
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Roger Kelly

 

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Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 8:59 am    
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Wally, I believe that chord is an Am...the way I do it is to hit strings 4-5-6 or 5-6-8 with A+B pedals down on the 12th fret for your A chord, then slide up to the 13th fret, while lowering the 4th and 8th strings with your knee lever (mine is LKR) and letting off Pedals A+B and hitting the same strings. This gives you an Am then you go back to 12th fret for the resolve....in the Key of E.
It took me a while to figure that one out too! Smile
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Steve Alcott

 

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New York, New York, USA
Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 12:05 pm    
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Sometimes a bass player will play the b7 as the root under the IV minor-as in Cm/F.
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Bill Thomin


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Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 12:33 pm    
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Check out Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bur5oLledQ
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Bob Mc Donald

 

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Nova Scotia, Canada
Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 2:18 pm    
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IV chord A_B pedals down stay there hit your V lever that lowers your 5th sting ( 2 beats ) all pedals and v lever off now you are back to the 1 chord
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Wally Taylor

 

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Post  Posted 17 Nov 2010 5:52 pm    
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Thanks guys for all the responses. Yes, it is the IV minor. I really appreciate the help and lord knows, I need all the help I can get.
Love this Forum!
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Bill Mayville

 

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Post  Posted 18 Nov 2010 12:38 pm     Wallys 4m
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Hi Wally
The fellows helping ,really did help.Also.
Finding any minor out of the chord your in , using the A and B pedals,just slide up one fret and use the D lever.That lever lowers your Two E's to D#.That will bring you to an easy to find (usually) the four minor.The two minor can be found by sliding down one fret,and using the D lever.OR.
The two minor as a moving chord starts by just going to the four chord(like if in C) you would go to the 13th fret or the first fret and hit the 6th note (A pedal).Also you can walk down from there sounding good.Releasing 1/2 of the A pedal,then all the way off,then using the X lever,(Lower of the Fifth string),you have just used the two minor and made some pretty music with it.
How are you doing with the number system.It takes all of three minutes to learn,at least to use enough for about three thousand songs.
Heres a little bit of the numbers.
This only for the key of C.
Leaving some space above these letters.
C D E F G A B C
Now above write the numbers (1 above C and so on.
Most you;ll need for awhile is 1 4 and 5.Do you see them?

Find the notes for all keys. The 1 will always be the key you are going to.With out entering any(----)
there are only eight notes.One is a repeat.Keep it simple,and the going will be alot easier for this instrument.Hey. I forgot something simple.
When in the four chord,and using A and B,after hitting three strings,like 8 6 &5,just add the 7th string.You will hear a 2minor.Thats just in case you get caught off guard...............
Bill
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Jim Eaton


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Post  Posted 18 Nov 2010 2:58 pm    
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And if you have A+B down for the I chord, pick 5/6/8 and then add the 7th string, it is a 6 Minor.
The 2 Minor is then back 2 frets from the AB position, let off the B pedal, in D the 2 minor is Em and thats @ fret 3 with the A pedal.
These darn minors all sound alike!!! LOL
JE:-)>
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Twayn Williams

 

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Post  Posted 18 Nov 2010 4:00 pm    
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Jim Eaton wrote:
I believe its a "Four Minor" that your looking for.
In the key of G it would be C - Cm - G.
JE:-)>


Extended this would be C6 - Cm6 - G6

A iv minor chord should be played as a 6th chord, NOT a 7th!

C-Eb-G-Bb -- incorrect for key of G
C-Eb-G-A -- correct for key of G

Another name for Cm6 is Am7b5 Smile This creates a dominant sound and helps lead back to the I chord.
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