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Topic: ralph mooney,s steel guitar on early buck owens stuff |
Lee Dassow
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Jefferson, Georgia USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2010 8:31 am |
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Does anyone know what type of steel guitar ralph mooney used on that wynn stewart, and early buck owens stuff,if it was a fender 1000, how many changes were there also what were they. LEE
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 19 Oct 2010 9:00 am
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Hi Lee
I've read that on the early Buck Owens recordings, Ralph played a homemade steel, with Magnatone pickup(s)....Jerry |
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2010 5:33 pm
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Hi Lee
I've read that on the early Buck Owens recordings, Ralph played a homemade steel, with Magnatone pickup(s)....Jerry |
I do believe you are correct Jerry. And if my memory serves me right, I do not believe he had any knee levers at that time.
Somewhere on this forum there is a tuning setup that Ralph used. You may wish to use the search feature and find it. Note: it may take awhile since it was a long time ago as I recall.
Good luck Lee,
c.
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Jim Manley
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bremerton Washington, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2010 11:39 pm
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Al Brisco (steel guitars of canada) or Joey Ace probably has the answer you are looking for on the set up.
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Fred Jack
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Bastrop, Texas 78602
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Posted 21 Oct 2010 2:13 pm
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| Yes, Moon recorded the early Wynn and Buck stuff on a homemade steel. Leo gave him a new Fender and took his old one to see " how it got its tone".When Moon showed up at one of Buck's session with the new Fender Buck wouldn't let him use it. He insisted that Moon get his old homemade one to record with.And of course the rest of that story is that Moon drilled a hole through the head of the Fender and added another string. Leo did not appreciate that and that was the end of Moon and Fender. |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 21 Oct 2010 2:21 pm
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Curtis Alford
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BastropTexas, USA 78602
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Posted 21 Oct 2010 4:42 pm Homemade Steel
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| If I remember correctly, Moon told me that steel he used was burned up in the fire, and buried in the desert.Curtis |
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 22 Oct 2010 5:38 am
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| I think Mr Mooney was the first to raise the high "E" to "F#" with a pedal, and was the first to go with a high "G#" as the first string, which he raised to "A" with a pedal. He also raised the "B's" to "C#" with a pedal. Think those were his most used changes in the early days. Only one string was raised per pedal...Jerry |
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2010 9:31 am
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| J Fletcher wrote: |
| I think Mr Mooney was the first to raise the high "E" to "F#" with a pedal, and was the first to go with a high "G#" as the first string, which he raised to "A" with a pedal. He also raised the "B's" to "C#" with a pedal. Think those were his most used changes in the early days. Only one string was raised per pedal...Jerry |
AND he used both feet. And often still does. Bless his heart. He was truly one of THE most unique PSG players in history.
May Jesus richly bless him for what he brought to the musical world,
c.
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Ethan Shaw
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Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2010 2:59 pm
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| Does anyone have a picture of Moon's extra string on his fender? I was thinking of doing the same thing. |
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Teddy Ray Bullard II
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Pocatello, Idaho
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Jerry Hendrix
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Manistee, Michigan, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Oct 2010 6:35 pm
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The one time that I got to see Mr Ralph Mooney,& talk to him, was at Tulare,California,he played a show with Buck, just the two of them,..He was on a Fender 1000 with the biggest Fender amp I ever saw,.
Ralph played several instrumentals that night,some
Hank Williams songs..He played with lofer moccsins
on his feet, used a Fender volume pedal,..He played
with both feet on the pedals most all of the time..
He said he raised all the strings up from the open
position except one..That one being the the 1st string from G# down to G. All the other strings were
the 1st from G# to A,, the 2nd from E to F#,,The 3rd
B to C#,, again, the 1st from G# lower to G,. in that
order..& each pedal operated only the one string..
Now gang ,that was back in 1959, I myself was doing
some playing steel with Buck Owens, at the "Barn"in
Fresno,& Buck told Mooney to show me how he tuned his
steel,.I could never think of trying to both raise
& lower that.009" string as they did not last too
long,.. I gave the job to Jay MacDonald when we came
back home to Michigan in 1961,. Hope this helps some.
Mr Moon is my all time favorite, & he drove us all"up
the wall" back then., Best new sound I ever heard.. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 2:06 am
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| I've heard Moon used a Vice Grip as a foot pedal, too. |
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