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David Kellogg

 

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Post  Posted 24 Sep 2010 6:08 pm    
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Wow, 2002 Zum 9 knees and pedals and spotless like it's been in a clean room at Intel for the last 8 years. This is pedal steel porn. seriously, I haven't even played it yet, just wanted to show you all. It should play itself. I just don't feel worthy to even strum it. YEOWZAAAAAAAAA. I don't know if I will even keep it, way over my head. I may have Cindy sleep on the couch tonight so the Zum can sleep with me. Now I need to wipe my prints off of it.





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Ron Davis


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Post  Posted 24 Sep 2010 7:49 pm    
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"Pedal steel porn."
That's funny.
lol...
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Ned McIntosh


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 1:43 am    
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That's what is commonly called "loaded for Bear and lookin' fer trouble!" Very Happy
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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 6:25 am    
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I understand your feelings. I'm here to help. Dial 1-800-SEL2-ERIC.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 6:55 am    
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Come to papa..........


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Rick Barnhart


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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 7:09 am     Re: The mother of all closet guitars
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David Kellogg wrote:
I may have Cindy sleep on the couch tonight so the Zum can sleep with me.


I'm guessin' Cindy doesn't read the forum. Seriously, David that's a sweet lookin' Zum.
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Bob Mc Donald

 

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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 8:28 am    
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wow can I have it
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Ron Davis


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 9:17 am    
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Eric Philippsen wrote:
I understand your feelings. I'm here to help. Dial 1-800-SEL2-ERIC.


Laughing

Great response, Eric.
Wink
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 10:53 am    
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what a great score David ! Very Happy Whoa! Very Happy
when you write : " I don't know if I will even keep it, way over my head "
man, that's just the kind of horn that'll you make want & get good
& that's Amen ! Winking
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Hook Moore


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 11:32 am    
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Very nice !
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John De Maille


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Post  Posted 25 Sep 2010 11:41 am    
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If you have trouble playing it, I'll take her off your hands for you.
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Dave Grafe


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Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 8:39 am    
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I'm right around the corner, David, in case you need to get rid of it in a hurry Smile
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David Kellogg

 

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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 9:40 am     wow
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Well now at least I know what all the hype has been about. the pedal action is incredibly smooth. when I first plugged it in I had no sound and it wasn't the pedal, then it came in and out, pulled the plug in and out a couple times and haven't had a problem since, I think it was hibernating. OH , what are the colored tuners for?
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 12:11 pm    
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the red one on E9 string 9 tunes the half stop for string 2 half tone lower
the red one on C6 ? - perhaps the same type of half stop ? otherwise it's just a tuner for whatever that lower is supposed to do
blue ones on E9 : strings 5 & 10 vertical lever split - string 6 looks like it tunes the half tone raise (pedal B)
leave the black ones alone David since they are usually set
i believe they're compensators
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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 12:53 pm    
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Dave,

I understand your confusion about the colored tuners. If you find guitar to be unplayable, call me at my alternate number, 1-GET-$FRM-ERIC
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 3:50 pm    
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why would there be any split tuning on a nylon tuner when there are changer screws fo that?

how much does a closet find cost these days?
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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 4:05 pm    
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What a beauty! A question for Crowbear.. If the black nylons are the compensators, what are the adjusters on the cross bar underneath?

I have only played one Zum and then only on a bands break, but it felt like butter,
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John De Maille


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 4:27 pm    
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I believe the cap screws are for the full lowers on the split tuning and the red tuners are for the half lower
e.g. 5th string full lower by cap screw- knee lever engaged
5th string raise, white tuner- pedal engaged
5th string split, red tuner- pedal+ knee lever engaged
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Don Brown, Sr.

 

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New Jersey
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 4:29 pm    
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David,

I'd sure hope before you play her, that you at least, pour some light machine oil, down through the Changers, in order that you don't completely destroy the fingers and axles.

If she's sat long enough that you had to work with the output jack, enough to get sound to go through, you can also bet, that the lube that's in the changers, has dried up, and turned to crust.

If it was mine, I'd pull the Changers and clean them up the right way, and give her a whole fresh lubing, before playing her.

Just thought I'd pass that along to you. She looks to be too good, to simply be destroyed from being played dry.

A real nice catch...............
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Alfred Ewell


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Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 7:14 pm    
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David Kellogg wrote:
This is pedal steel porn.


Don Brown, Sr. wrote:
clean them up the right way, and give her a whole fresh lubing, before playing her.


Bo Borland wrote:
What a beauty! A question for Crowbear.. If the black nylons are the compensators, what are the adjusters on the cross bar underneath?


Well this is getting pretty rich! OK, uh... I guess the adjusters would be her cross bar strap? Very Happy
But really, (huff, puff) wouldn't all those pedals be fun to work up to? <wheeze>
A real beaut!
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Stan Schober


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2010 7:29 pm    
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As the Tubes said :
"She's a Beauty !!!"

and , being the rude sort...
WHat'd you pay for this Closet Queen ?
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CrowBear Schmitt


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2010 1:11 am    
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what are the adjusters on the cross bar underneath

perhaps i got you wrong Bo - those would be the lever stops
you mean those white plastic thingies on a bracket that go over the cross shafts ?

just for the record, i'm not a wiz or da man who knows
it was just my take on them tuners
the allen screws at the end of the changer on E9 (strings 5 6 9 10) are for the splits
they are where the lowest note gets tuned
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john widgren


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2010 7:02 am     tuners
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Friends

When you have two lowers below a split note (like the Franklin B to A change after the C split and Bb lower)the first lower below the split (Bb) is tuned with the extra rod in the raise portion of the changer (the note will almost always be flat after tuning the split (C). This is where you would otherwise use the set screw tuners). The terminal lower (A) is then tuned with the appropriate lowering nut, and can be stabilized with the set screw if desired.

The black nuts at the bottom of the lowering portion of the changer are usually return compensators for lowers.
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Paddy Long


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Post  Posted 28 Sep 2010 3:18 pm    
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David your a lucky man mate .... I have 2 such beasts myself Very Happy We don't know how lucky we are !!
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Post  Posted 30 Sep 2010 8:15 pm    
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Don; It's a big consolation that you didn't purchase this fine ZumSteel! If it's treated correctly, it will last many, many years, because; PSG's are not designed to wear out so fast as you might think! Only refurbished/refinished guitars need to be taken apart to do the job!
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