Steel Player "Teach Your Children Well"

Ric Nelson · From: Silver Spring, Maryland

Seems to me we talked about this before some time ago and I've since forgotten. Any body remember who played the pedal steel on the Cosby, Stills and Nash version of "Teach Your Children Well"?

Ric

Olaf van Roggen · From: The Netherlands

Jerry García

Mark van Allen · From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA

With all respect to your question, Ric, as one who's been hanging out on the forum for quite a few years, that's simply hilarious.
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Ron Whitfield · From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA

It would have been a different world without JG, and I was a late convert having no time to invest into something so big and hit/miss. But he made a difference.

Ray Minich · From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra

Jerry Garcia and Skunk Baxter gave me a lot of neat steel notes to learn.
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Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

Never before (or since) has a steel player achieved so much with so little.

(and that's meant as a compliment...)
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Rick Abbott · From: Indiana, USA

Man, JG was THE best player of the era! Changed the world!!!
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Peter Freiberger · From: California, USA

Yeah, Rick's right! Forget about Emmons, Green, Myrick, Rugg, Jernigan, Maness, Mooney, Brumley, Chalker and all those other guys. Jerry Garcia was the man who defined the instrument... at least until you heard any of those guys.

scott murray · From: Asheville, NC

when Jerry's steel playing comes up most people think of "Teach" and maybe "Dire Wolf", "The Wheel", or the bouncy NRPS stuff.

but his back-up work on slower songs like "High Time" and "Brokedown Palace" is tasteful, sparse and just perfect really.
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Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

Rick Abbott · From: Indiana, USA

HAHAHAHAHA Laughing

I got ya! I wanted to stir the ol' pot a bit. Very Happy

I've been working way too much and needed some fun.

I do love the alt-country thing. Commander Cody, NRPS, Flying Burrito Bros. etc.

Pete F, don't take it personally. I just wanted to see how long my joke would take to mature. JG was barely a player (in his own opinion) but hit some great notes...like we do sometimes! Sorry, I know it was cold-hearted Oh Well

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Ric Nelson · From: Silver Spring, Maryland

Thanks so much for the replies. At first I thought it was JC but then after a bit, I didn't trust my memory, which is getting worse with time.

I can remember him field jamming when we (Luke Gordon and the Lonesome Drifters) played at Sunset Park in PA, in the late 1950s. He was moved by one of our songs, "Dark Hollow" and made a special request that we do it.

Garcia some years later recorded it, which didn't quite sound like our version, I should say!. I never connected that kid at Sunset with JC until many years later.

If you want to hear JC’s licks on "Teach Your Children Well", on a dobro, click on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC-N4zl1QZo&feature=related

Ric

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

Thanks for that link Ric. That's just about the coolest thing I ever heard. Those chokes and slants sound just like the original thing on steel.

BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if JG's intro on Teach isn't the most heard pedal steel part ever. People from all music likes and styles heard that. That, and the song, brought a lot of people to the steel guitar as previously mentioned.

Whenever we do that song, people always recognize the intro and applaud the song.

Jim Pitman · From: Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA

Jerry Story.

I used to see Bobby Black play out in CA in the 80s. He told me Jerry would come over for a lesson/jam.
Jerry used to get elected "best steel guitar player" by playboy magazine. He was so embarassed by the nomination he gave up the steel for a while - humble guy - he knew.
Yet "Teach Your Children" perhaps the most recognizable steel guitar intro in the world.

Ned McIntosh · From: New South Wales, Australia

I think Jim Cohen has pretty much summed it up. How may of us first became aware of pedal steel as an instrument because of that track? Quite a few, I wouldn't mind betting.

I was an exception, it was Cal Hand backing up Leo Kottke in "Morning Is The Long Way Home" from the "Ice Water" LP that got me aware of the steel as an instrument.

We all started somewhere, and if we started with Jerry and went on to discover Lloyd, Weldon, Buddy, John, Pete, Ralph, Jimmy and a score of others, then Jerry built better than he knew.
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Michael Remming · From: Kimberly, Idaho, USA (deceased)

This was the first song I learned on the steel. I had the great luck of growing up in St. Louis and I remember driving my moms 72 Pinto over to Scotty's for lessons. Scotty is such a cool guy he got me a back stage pass to see the dead, let me go with him to have breakfast with Buddy Cage my hero at the time. What is really cool is the band I am playing with now just started playing Teach your Children .........really brings back memories.

Dave Alfstad · From: Indianola, IA USA

I've been a member of the Forum here since 1999. Some things just never change.

Just sayin'.

Dave Alfstad

Ray Montee · From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)

Has ANYONE ever posted these much talked about JG hot licks that were so fundamental for learning to play the steel guitar?

Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

That's just it, Ray.
There's nothing "hot" about the playing, yet no-one else sounds just like that.
If you really want to play the lick, just listen to it. It's pretty easy to hear what pedals/strings he is using/playing.
iirc, Jerry Byrd speaks about meeting Jerry Garcia in Hawaii, in his book.

Barry Blackwood · Posted 5 Oct 2010 4:00 pm

Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

Just that Jerry was there for a gig, and went to see Jerry Byrd play, and asked him for a lesson, and then he never saw him again.

Jim Cohen · From: Philadelphia, PA

scott murray · From: Asheville, NC

Dire Wolf

probably the hottest Jerry ever played, and he did one hell of a job if you ask me.
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Michael Remming · From: Kimberly, Idaho, USA (deceased)

It wasn't that the licks were that hot it just opened up the steel to a whole new group of listeners. That may not have been listening to country at the time.

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