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Topic: m.s.a d-10 c6th lower G TO f change? |
Paul Wade
From:
mundelein,ill
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 8:42 am |
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anybody that has a older m.s.a classic d-10 know
if change will work lower G down a hole tone to F and
rise 10 string c to a d??? i would like to add a knee
lever LKR to do this change. anybody have this change
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 9:10 am
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It's a great change! First heard about it from Jay Dee, and he said that Maurice Anderson gave him the idea.
Open, it's a great Dmin9 and close voiced FMaj7. It's also great to be able to play a fat straight F major chord in that range, omitting the Maj7 (string 6)!
I myself just lower the G to F without the C to D raise, because I have it on a vertical KL (that's doing double duty with the E9 neck). When I use it in conjunction with pedal 5, I get the D note in the bottom and it overrides the half step G to F#. This is a useful way to go from a II7 to a IImin7! |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 9:32 am
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| I have it on RKR, and then the same as Rick. If you can lower your A's a half step elsewhere (mine is LKL), P5+P6 plus A's down a half plus this gives you a whole new set of 6th chords, up two whole steps. 12th fret = C6th, 11th fret = G6th. Let the knee off, and the G -> F# makes a 7th chord. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 10:03 am
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i have that change G to F on LKL
it's quite handy w: P6 to get a root in the middle - a good blues or rock power chord
add the As to Ab & you get the minor chord
otherwise i use the G to F in conjunktion w: the A to Bb lever too (7th chord) when doin runs or just messin' w: the chord |
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Paul Wade
From:
mundelein,ill
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 11:10 am G TO F change
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i guess what i am asking is it possible to put that change on a older m.s.a d-10 classic with DBL lower
and DBL raise changer?? 
p.w |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 11:28 am
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| I'm pretty sure you can, unless you have any other unusual pulls on those strings. |
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David Higginbotham
From:
Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 11:51 am
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Paul, it is a tough change but can be done. I had it on one of my MSA's in the past. You will have to have maximum travel on every part to do it. It's tougher the smaller the string gauges.
Dave |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 9:44 pm
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Paul,
If you run into trouble, be
sure to place the pull rod
through the changer hole
farthest away from the
changer axle.
This minimizes the tension
realized by the lowering
scissor from the return spring.
Also, if need be, use a string
that has a larger diameter 'core'
string.
Different brands of the same
size wound string may use
different diameter cores.
~Russ
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