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Topic: When do you use string pulls or pushes for the slants |
Sherman Willden
From: Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 14 Aug 2010 1:14 pm
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Coming from the, how dare you mention that here pedal steel world, when do you use string pulls instead of slants?
Thanks in advance; _________________ Sherman L. Willden
It is easy to play the steel guitar. Playing so that the audience finds it pleasing is the difficult act. |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 7:02 am Never!
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That's what I said: "NEVER"! |
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 8:37 am
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I don't use string pulls myself, one of the deficiencies in my playing. I would guess though that you would use a string pull instead of a slant in a multi-string situation, when you want the rest of the strings to remain in a particular chord and just change one string. _________________ Brad’s Page of Steel
A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 10:58 am
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I wouldn't know how.
I let my feet do the pushing and pulling. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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Les Anderson
From: The Great White North
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 11:11 am
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I must admit that sometimes I use a leather worker's thimble to pull a string (non-pedal) when I want three strings but can't reach three with a reverse slant. I have been told that's cheating in the steel guitar world.
In my mind, if it works to get the job done, then do it. I also hold my fork in my right hand while picking up my glass of water with my left. Bad table manners???????? Who said so??????? |
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Travis Hillis
From: Nashville TN, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 2:49 pm
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Right on! Whatever sounds good
I try to use slants and pulls...key word: try.
Ive been tinkerig with a nifty trick in the dobro G tuning. Go to the 7th fret and play the B(2nd string) and G(3rd) string while bending the B string a half-step. Slowly start to release it and when you hit the 5th fret play and bend it again. Makes for a neat effect if done right. It's in the key of C. |
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D Schubert
From: Columbia, MO, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2010 5:21 pm
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I try to use slants most/all of the time. I believe they are more precise and more toneful. But, there are certain licks that work better (for me) with the cheese-slicer maneuver. Especially raising the 3rd to a sus4 to invoke Ralph Mooney. Or a quick raise of the 5th to #5th between a I and IV chord, to suggest an augmented chord. |
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George Piburn
From: The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
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Posted 16 Aug 2010 5:55 am
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Ed Altrichter
From: Schroeder, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2010 10:49 am
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By the time I get to the place where I would otherwise use a pull, I've already gone past it ! |
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Steve Ahola
From: Concord, California
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Posted 17 Aug 2010 10:46 am
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The question is ambiguous: is it "pulls" instead of slants, or "pulls" to fine-tune a slant?
When I joined this board in January, most of my lap steel playing consisted of string pulls in open E. Well, I guess that was one way to get a 6th chord in open E...
I think it has been 6 months since I even thought of pulling a string. At least for me it is better for me to use my ring and little finger to dampen the backside of the steel (both of those fingers are numb from peripheral neuropathy so they aren't much good for anything else). The other thing is that I prefer to use heavy gauge strings for the top 2 or 3 strings and that makes it harder to bend them anyway.
For slants I will often skip the middle string so I'll do the 3rd and 1st or the 4th and 2nd. That way you have a fighting chance of having those two strings be in tune.
Steve _________________ www.blueguitar.org
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Bill Ladd
From: Wilmington, NC, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2010 3:52 am
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On slow tunes I'll sometimes pull the center string of a slant to tune it to the chord. Sometimes, if I'm lazy, I'll just hit the interval. On faster stuff or if I'm just passing by the slant, I'll hit all three without the pull and move on. |
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Ron Randall
From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2010 10:43 am
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watch Junior Brown on his Git-Steel. He makes it look so easy.
I don't have the strength or pain threshold to do it. Maybe my strings are too tight!
If I could do it well,, I would use a string pull to play "sus" chords or intervals.
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Ron Randall
From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2010 10:47 am
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watch Junior Brown one his Git-Steel. He makes it look so easy.
I don't have the strength or pain threshold to do it. Maybe my strings are too tight!
If I could do it well,, I would use a string pull to play "sus" chords or intervals.
Ron |
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Twayn Williams
From: Portland, OR
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Posted 18 Aug 2010 11:48 am
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If I'm trying to emulate the PSG sound, usually I go for a string pull. It helps if you're using fairly light strings. Since I own a PSG, I don't really try to go for a PSG sound on lap steel. YMMV. _________________ Primitive Utility Steel |
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J. Wilson
From: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted 18 Aug 2010 4:19 pm
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You use both in good taste. There are no rules for this sort of thing. Music is about expression. Both techniques have a sound and a place and if you feel that sound is appropriate and/or value added, then you should pursue it without shame. That is how music grows and changes and improves. _________________ If Music Be the Food of Love, Play On. -Shakespeare
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Chris Byars
From: Denver, CO
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Posted 27 Aug 2010 7:04 am
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I've used them to go from a minor to a major on strings 1 & 2 or 1 & 2 & 3, pulling the #2 string. Only here and there though, usually at the end of a song (when I remember to, heh). Using Kayton's C6/A7. ECAGEC#AA. |
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