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basilh


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 12:06 am    
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On another forum I posted the tab of "The Moon of Manakoora" and THIS folder of 20 versions of the song/tune.

I'm curious as to which Jerry Byrd album his version comes from and also where and when it was recorded. Jerry's version has lots of improvisation and additions to the melody and displays his superb mastery of the instrument, BUT, it's rather strange because it seems he forgot to overdub the melody just after the overdub of the harmonics in the second time 'round. Must have been the engineer's fault but I'm surprised that Jerry didn't notice.

Jerry Byrd version

0:42 starts improvisation
1:15 starts harmonics
1:32 is the strange sections missing the top line of the melody.

Knowing how some of the guys here like a challenge, and others like to dispute almost everything just for fun, let's see what you have to say about if it's really an omission or intentional, and IF it's intentional what's the reasoning behind your view ?
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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 5:29 am    
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I know I have this album but it will take me a few days to find. I have just gone through my collection looking for JB version of Mapuana and I need some time to recover. cc
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:34 am    
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Isn't that version from Hi-Fi Guitar, Decca, 1958...? See This Site

Here's my version of 'Manakoora' from my C6 song book: Click

I too thought it was odd that Jerry didn't go back to the top of the melody after the impov section. The song is a little unusual because it's only 16 bars long (chorus only), there is no other section. After a couple of times through the melody, I think most players would embellish the melody somewhat. "Song of the Islands" is another 16 bar song that get repetitious unless the player ad libs a lot. Cool
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basilh


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 7:26 am    
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Nicely played Doug, it's only today that I discovered that there is more to the song.. there is a verse section..
I have NEVER heard it played or sung..



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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 9:57 am    
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Thanks, Basil. That other section of Moon of Manakoora looks interesting. I wonder if that would be considered a verse, or is it an extended "intro" for the main body of the song (the chorus)? As you know, a lot of songs from the 30s, 40, 50s have long vocal intros that are completely different from the rest of the song, and are often omitted nowadays. "Stardust" comes to mind.
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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 7:00 pm    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
As you know, a lot of songs from the 30s, 40, 50s have long vocal intros that are completely different from the rest of the song, and are often omitted nowadays. "Stardust" comes to mind.


I believe that tradition comes from Broadway musical theatre, where the verse of the song lyrically segues the spoken dialogue of the actors into the "actual" lyrics of the song.

Ella F., Sinatra, and Tony Bennett were good about oftentimes including the verse to the song in their recordings. One example is an Ella version of "Someone To Watch Over Me," for which the Gershwins wrote a 24 measure verse, beautiful but not really related melodically to the commonly heard refrain.
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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 9:08 pm    
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I think you're right about that, Herb. The vocal intros probably came from musical theatre. The intro for "Someone To Watch Over Me" is awesome, and it's a great melody in it's own right.

Another song with a seldom heard vocal intro is God Bless America... "While the storm clouds gather far across the sea..." etc.
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George Keoki Lake


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 9:24 pm    
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Another version of MOON OF MANAKOORA which is very nice can be heard on an old 78rpm by Johnny Pineapple and his Islanders...JACK DETORO had such a beautiful touch and tone on his steel....JMHO of course.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 25 Aug 2010 9:35 pm    
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Hey, look what I found on YouTube... a vocal version of Moon of Manakoora with the Intro section that Basil posted above! --> Click
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