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Topic: Old habits die hard |
Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2010 2:20 pm |
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Today I took out Scotty's Steel Guitar Method and started through it again. When I started with that book I first had a Sho-Bud D10 and then a Mullen D10 where the the Ebs were LKR. Now the Ebs are RKR since 2004. As I started through the book my knee instinctively pushed the LKR for the Ebs. I would have never thought that would happen.
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Sherman L. Willden
It is easy to play the steel guitar. Playing so that the audience finds it pleasing is the difficult act. |
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Jim Pitman
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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2010 6:53 am
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Doesn't surprise me. It's a cue.
If I know I'm going to play a slide style guitar part rather than a PSG style part on a PSG, I'll pick up a Steven's bar (sith finger slot on top) because that's how I started - slide guitar, and all the non pedal licks come back to me. |
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Wayne D. Clark
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Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2010 2:35 pm
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Sherman, My LKR lowers my E's to Eb's and My LKL raises my E's to F's How ever that is the way the set up came when I purchased my PSG. but what I am confuse about is how to get a 7th Chord. My F lever is RKL but it was set up to raise my first string F# to a G# and lower my sixth string from a G# to an F#. I'm confused to say the least and know so little about making changes that I would't touch the under carrage.
w.d.clark
Desert Rose S10 3/5
Goodrich pedal
Peavey 110 |
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Wayne D. Clark
From:
Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2010 2:46 pm
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Jim, I use a Steven's bar all the time since I also play some on the DoBro, but I wonder if it is the best maybe I should get a Round bar to use with my PGS. Something I do not do, [since I started on a 6th string Hawian set up years and years and years ago then kept using a Stevens when I started playing lap steel] is Move the Bar vertically across the neck like if see a number of players do today. It would be a new experience for me.
w.d.clark
Desert Rose s10 3/5
Goodrich Pedal
Peavey 110 |
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Sherman Willden
From:
Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2010 7:01 am
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Wayne;
The 7th string D and second string D# lowered to D are the natural ways to get the dominant 7ths within the E9th tuning. Using your LKR to lower the Es to Ebs is another natural way to get the dominant seventh. The EMaj7th is available by using the 7th string D#. As pointed out by Erv in another post
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| The handiest chart I've ever seen or used is one published by Mel Bay and compiled by Scotty |
. You can also get a good chord chart by going to http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=147199&highlight=patricia
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Sherman L. Willden
It is easy to play the steel guitar. Playing so that the audience finds it pleasing is the difficult act. |
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Wayne D. Clark
From:
Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2010 2:47 pm
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Well Sherman Appreciate you information. My E lever does lower my [E's] to [Eb] so that will work however my 7th string is tuned to a [F#] not a {D] and my 2nd string to a [D#] but my G lever lowers it to a C not a D. Well we could go on and on about this. I do have the Mel Bay Pedal Steel Chart by Dewitt Scott and I find it very informative until I get the the Levers. That is where the problem lies. they are not set up the same as the chart. For example D lever lowers the [E's} to [Eb] on the chart but my set up the D lever rases the [E's] to [F]. and the other Levers I will not bother you with Sherman, but to follow the Mel Bay chart by Dewitt Scott is little or no help when it comes to three of the levers on my PSG. Fortunately all the open strings are tuned according to the chart and the pedals as well are set up as the chart shows.
Wayne D. Clark
Desert Rose S10 3/5
Goodrich Pedal
Peavey 110 |
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Sherman Willden
From:
Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2010 5:37 pm
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My apologies, Wayne. I meant to say 9th string D instead of 7th string D. I think as you work with it the tuning will reveal itself. Think of the knee levers as a --, -, +, or ++ and then look at Scotty's copedent. You will see where everything is based on equidistances.
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Sherman L. Willden
It is easy to play the steel guitar. Playing so that the audience finds it pleasing is the difficult act. |
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