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Topic: 2 Different Players same Guitar |
Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jul 2010 3:59 am |
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It is very true when different players play the same guitar it will sound different, when Jack conyer sits down to my steel it is so much diferent than when I play it.
Could some of the reason be sitting in a different location? I know he is a much better player.
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 6 Jul 2010 6:37 am
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| Bingo Ernest. People don't realize that they do not sound like what they are hearing sitting right by their amp. To get the full effect of what you really sound like you have to step away 10 or 15 feet. Lows especially do not form right in front of the amp. I always have other players play my rig with my settings so that I can go out front and check what the rig sounds like. It never sounds like it does when you walk up to it and your standing or sitting right next to it. Thats why some players think that their rig sounds different when another player plays it. It doesn't. Its just that they aren't sitting right next to it and you can hear the full effect. Excellent question. |
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Bill Mayville
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Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jul 2010 9:01 am amp setting
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The older I get ,the more I see what I missed.
Have some-one else play it for tone,is something I NEVER thought of.
I never feel like it sounds real good.
Other players say it sounds great,even in stereo
If no-one is around,I sorta think a small recorder would tell a little.Unless it is to wacky,it just might be a good idea.
.I won't tell anyone about my Idea.
Bill
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Mike Taylor
From:
Wetumpka, AL
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Posted 6 Jul 2010 5:46 pm
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Kevin -- That very reason is why I try to place my amp as far behind me as possible--given the stage setup. Additionally I've begun to leave my amp on the floor instead of sitting on a chair--the sound is so different!!
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Reece Anderson
From:
Keller Texas USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 10 Jul 2010 6:57 am
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When playing I believe everyone should adjust the amp to their sound, no matter where they prefer the amp to sit.
For any player to play their best, they should hear the sound that pleases them, NOT the tone they "think" it sounds like somewhere else, or what someone else tells them. Different players can make the same guitar sound different. |
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Ron Epperson
From:
Riverside,Calif. U.S.A.
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Posted 10 Jul 2010 1:10 pm ca amp on the floor
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| your amp should never set on the floor unless you are using a rack setup the speakers should always be atleaST 12 INCHES Of the floor |
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2010 6:02 pm Why
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Why is that Ron?
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Ron Epperson
From:
Riverside,Calif. U.S.A.
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Posted 10 Jul 2010 7:18 pm amp on the floor
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| from where u r sitting at your steel with speakers on the floor they will pickup vibrations also the sound will be going under you where u cant hear a tru sound speaker should be up alittle and tilted back as to not hit u right directly in the head to high is bad as well as to low try it if u can keep it atleast 5 feet behind u farther if u can |
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 11 Jul 2010 5:44 am Thanks Guys
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I don't play professionally. My Guitar does not sound to me like those I hear on you tube and other events. I sit next to the amp and it is on the floor. Maybe that is part of my problem. We want discuss the other part the truth hurts
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 11 Jul 2010 5:45 am
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I like the amp on the floor, especially in a band situation as I can hear more of the complete group. Also if I have my amp sitting on a chair or ampstand of some sort I'm always getting told to turn up as all I seem to hear is myself..... If you hear too much of yourself a person will seem to EQ the amp too much to what they like and lose some highs out in the audience. Distance creates high loss so IMHO I think a player should EQ their amp with the highs turned up a little more than they'd like. Sitting the amp on the floor helps to achieve this. Having said all that, this only pertains to band situations where your amp is not miked! If you're miked or have a soundman, the amp can be EQ'd in the band mix to it's proper setting(s)!...JH in Va.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 11 Jul 2010 6:20 am
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| Different players can make the same guitar sound different. |
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Amen to that. Doesn't much matter, for Steel players, left hand bar technique will make the entire rig sound like a totally different rig regardless of how the hi's and lo's are set...On a six string same thing, right hand picking technique and left hand fret technique can turn one mans nightmare rig into heaven and vice versa... Set your amp the way it makes 'YOU' feel the music, if your experience tells you to do something one way or another, that's what you go with, your experience.
The ONE thing that can alter your sound in a big way is if you are sitting directly in front of your amp, you are blocking the speaker projection. This is really common for Steel players. Your back loves it but the rest of the world can't differentiate.
t
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 11 Jul 2010 8:23 am
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wow...according to ron, i've been doing it wrong for 40 years..since i've never had a rack setup!
guess i better start all over again. |
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Carson Leighton
From:
N.B. Canada
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Posted 11 Jul 2010 8:50 am
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My wife and I walked into a Legion Hall one night and my buddy was playing his 66 D-10 Emmons...While we were paying,,at about 60 ft. away,,I noticed that that Emmons was as clear as a bell..I also noticed it had a lot of "womp" in it's sound, but we won't go there..  He asked me if I would like to play with the band for awhile, so he could hear what the guitar sounded like out front...I went up and played with the band for about 20 minutes or so, and I noticed the amp. was way back about 15 ft. behind, and just a little to the right,(looking out from the stage)...It was also tilted back at about a 45 degree anngle..The amp. was a Nashville 400 with no mod..He used just a little delay from a Peavey Adverb,,and some spring reverb from the amp... I don't think it was through the mains or monitors..When he came back up,,he said it sounded beautiful,,but I don't think we sounded exactly the same..I thought he sounded better than me....Carson |
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