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Topic: u12'vers suggestions? |
Gary Webb
From: New York, USA
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Posted 1 Jun 2010 11:26 am
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I have a u12 8x6. The floor pedals are standard tuning 1-8. I have eb f and g's on the left knee.Also a b to bflat in the center for b6.RKR gives me the d's.RKL used to lower 2nd sring two steps but as many of you suggested, I was going to add that pull to the e to eb lever. The question is what would you fella's suggest would be the best use for the RKL once it,s open, another b6th pedal or e9th.Suggestions please, Gary |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 5:43 am
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I use RKL to lower my Es to Eb _________________ MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 7:57 am
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Ken Metcalf wrote: |
I use RKL to lower my Es to Eb |
I tried that, and it definitely made the transition between using the E-F raise and the E-Eb lower a lot smoother and easier. But I ultimately decided that I preferred it on the LKR anyway. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 10:17 am
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What does Gary think...?
I have my LKR so it folds up out of the way so I can move back and forth on the pedals or use it down in the E9th context. _________________ MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 12:50 pm
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It may be OK to some but I can't see for the life of me how anyone could prefer to lower the E strings (4 & with the LKR lever. I can't imaging holding in that lever and then trying to use the floor pedals with the same leg, it's just not practical!...
I do the same as the late Jeff Newman did in that I do my E lowers on the RKR and raises on RKL. That way when you're in the B6th mode you can use any of the 8 floor pedals and all three of the left knee levers, or like Ken said, I can fold up my LKR if I want to, makes sense don't it?.....JMHO....JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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Doug Rolfe
From: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 1:07 pm
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For those of us who do not do a lot of 6th playing on a u12, but use it on some phrases within a song and then go back to more of the 9th sound, it makes perfect sense to keep the LKR as the lowering of the E's. For one thing, it gives a natural movement with the B pedal for the seventh and since you don't normally raise and lower the E's at the same time it also works well when rocking from lowers to raises of the E's. I personally do not wish to "hold" a knee lever with the same leg as the one I use for my volume pedal. There are other reasons that it works well on the left knee also but, it really only matters as to what you as an individual prefers. I would not be critical of anyone as to how they set up their steel as it is very personel. My set up is very similar to Mike's. |
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Gary Webb
From: New York, USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 5:33 pm Gary Webb
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My E to Eb is on LKR with a knee lock and swing away lever.(Sierra)I move my leg to 5&6 and the Bb lever is right there.I'm thinking the RKL would be a good second knee on the B6th but being a novice I don't know what would be the next best change to have.I have seen some players use a copy of pedal 2 the G# to A's on their 6th tuning to get another seventh chord.Also I keep hearing about a Franklin pedal but I don't know how that works. Gary |
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mike nolan
From: Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 2 Jun 2010 8:55 pm
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My U-12 looks a lot like Mike's. I lower the Es on LKR.... all of my S and D-10s work that way. I approach the uni from the "one big tuning" perspective, so it makes sense to me. I can reach all of the pedals while holding in the LKR, plus I have a lock lever if I want to stay in the 6th side for an extended period. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 3 Jun 2010 3:53 am
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If you look at my tuning, you'll see that the RKR drops the 8th string to D (as well as raises the 2nd string.)
If/when I kick this in and release the LKR that drops the Es to Eb, I have the equivalent of the C pedal on the B6. So on those rare occasions when I attempt to play something on the B6, instead of holding the LKR in all the time, I release it and kick in the RLR.
It saves a lot of fatigue on my leg. And I have no problem manipulating the B6 pedals while holding in the LKR. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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