| NV-112 - High Gain vs Low Gain |
| I use High Gain Only |
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57% |
[ 28 ] |
| I use Low Gain Only |
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12% |
[ 6 ] |
| I use both depending where I'm playing |
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14% |
[ 7 ] |
| I use both at the same time |
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2% |
[ 1 ] |
| I don't use a 112 |
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14% |
[ 7 ] |
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| Total Votes : 49 |
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Topic: NV-112 Do you use High Gain or Low Gain input? |
Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2010 1:42 pm |
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I see that a lot of posts involving pickups, amp chips, guitar brands, playing environment, etc. show many people using the NV112's High Gain input.
Using the 112 with several different PSG's and lap guitars (mostly with George L pickups), I find a very noticeable difference in the amp's sound between the High and Low Gain inputs.
I'd like to hear everybody's experience about that including comments about your setup and the sound you like best.
I use a GFI Ultra with a GFI-II pickup, GeoL cables, with either a Goodrich pot VP or a Hilton VP, sometimes with SGBB, sometimes without) |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 5 Jul 2010 6:56 pm
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Low gain into both of my 112's out of my Profex II.
I do believe the high gain would be for use direct from the volume pedal, and even then maybe attenuated somewhat.
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Michael Barone
From:
Downingtown, Pennsylvania
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Posted 5 Jul 2010 7:48 pm
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I selected both at the same time. I send the echo trail only to the low gain input, reverberated signal (RV-7) to the high gain input. I like to use the amp to mix the effects, so that the delay output doesn't interfere with the clean reverb signal.
I use an Echo Park, since it has (what I perceive to hear) a somewhat darker echo trail, which I prefer. The Delay pedal is set up completely wet so that I don't mix in a lo-fi dry signal.
Both volume pedal outputs are used, each for a different effect.
Mike |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 5 Jul 2010 9:28 pm
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High gain = high impedance
Low gain = low impedance
The low gain will roll off some of the highs going into the preamp. Other than that, I don't think there is any difference. With an active volume pedal or buffer, there should be no tonal difference. With a pot pedal, there might be. With the 3 cord hookup, there definitely will be.
I sometimes use the low gain if I don't want to touch my pre gain control and have a 10 db pad, but since the pre gain control is pre the first gain stage, I don't think there is really much point in using the low gain input by itself. |
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Larry Robinson
From:
Peachtree City, Georgia, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2010 1:29 am
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| Input 1(high gain) is 10 db higher than input 2 (low gain). If both channels are plugged in, both channels have same input level (low gain) . Info came from Peavey 112 instruction manual. If you have high gain pick-up, it is recommended you use input 2 so you won't overdrive the amp. |
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Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2010 12:12 pm
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This has been very interesting. At this stage the poll shows most 112 users going with high gain all or most of the time making up over 60% of the vote. I appreciate you taking the poll.
This thread got my attention a few months ago, because I was having a similar problem.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=180498&highlight=
Both of Buck's posts said a lot to me. Using high gain with 3 different guitars, 2 with GeoL 10-1's, the other with a GeoL GFI-II, I was having the same problem. I assume that the pickups were considered to be on the hot side. (My gear was GeoL cables, guitar to Hilton or Goodrich pot VP to amp was giving me harsh and grainy highs (not as bad as vuvuzelas but still peeling paint off the walls). I frequently used a SGBB between the guitar and whichever VP. Never used the 3 cable hookup. Always had the 112 pregain much lower than the master gain. Had the Hilton VP's volume trim pot backed off of full volume. Couldn't EQ the overall sound to what I like - full, smooth, lots of body, good balance. High gain gave me plenty of brass to cut through a heavy, loud band or tracks, but it wasn't fun to play. The low gain input gave me what worked for my ear/brain and let me play without needing to back off. And I like to pick with the fat part of the picks and vary the attack from heavy to light depending on the music.
I've read but forgotten the impedance matches that the SGBB and Hilton VP presents to the amp input; I know they play a role.
All this is just my opinion and it's what works for me and my particular setup. And I seriously believe that whatever works for you is what you need to do. That and I know most of you are way better players than me and I wanted to see what you were using.
More comments and votes are welcome. |
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