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Abe Levy


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California, USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2010 1:27 pm    
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I've got a 80's BMI D10. I just changed the strings on the E9th neck for the first time and when I got them all back on, my 6th string Gsharp raise is all out of whack. When I try to tune the rod, it retunes the string - so when I get the pull in tune the string is out of tune again.

Anybody have any idea what would cause this?

Would be much appreciated! Thanks.

Abe
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 18 May 2010 1:41 pm    
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You may have used a wound string, instead of a plain string (or vice versa)
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Tucker Jackson

 

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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2010 1:44 pm    
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It's possible the tuning nut is screwed in too far. Try this:

Unscrew the tuning nut so that it is not affecting the pedaled note.

Tune the open string

Now try to tune the pedaled note.

If this doesn't solve the problem, you may need to increase the amount of travel of the B-pedal. Turn the guitar over and look at the mechanism where the B-pedal attaches. There should be a stop-screw in the linkage somewhere that determines where the B-pedal bottoms out. You might be able to adjust that screw so that there is more travel for that pedal.

A third option would be to move the pull-rod to a different slot on the bellcrank. Depending on where you put it, you'll get more (or less) string movement for a given amount of pedal travel.
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Carson Leighton


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N.B. Canada
Post  Posted 18 May 2010 1:47 pm    
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Abe,,did you have this problem before you changed the strings?? If not, then it has to have something to do with how the string is on the changer,,or if you have done a lot of adjusting, and have a tuneable split, then the problem could lie there.. Also have a look at the roller nut. I have never even seen one of those guitars,,so it's pretty hard to diagnose the problem..Someone who owns one will probably chime here and help you.........Carson
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Dave Simonis


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Stevens Point, WI USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2010 7:32 pm     BMi
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I had a similar problem happen on a BMI I previously owned. What started out to be this apparent issue turned into the finger/changer needing to be replaced. If it isn't the wrong string (gauge or wound vs. plain), you may want to check out the changer end.

The good news is parts are still available to completely fix this (from BMI) if you need to. The parts aren't expensive...but it takes a bit of mechanical effort.

Good Luck!
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Abe Levy


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California, USA
Post  Posted 19 May 2010 10:31 am    
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Thanks everyone, turned out to be simple (thanks Jim Palenscar). Indeed, I inadvertently switched to a wound string from a plain. I had no idea this could cause so much trouble! Thanks again to everyone that replied. Once again, the Steel guitar forum (and its members) proves that it is AWESOME!

Thanks!
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Larry Bressington

 

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Nebraska
Post  Posted 19 May 2010 7:43 pm    
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Tuning nut too tight??
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Dan Burnham


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Greenfield, Tennessee
Post  Posted 20 May 2010 10:57 am     Go Jim
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Abe,
If Jim hadn't answered I would have followed up. Another option is to change the position in which the pull rod sits in the bell crank.
It is an honor to be answered by a famous person like Jim Smile

Jim is a wealth of knowledge,

Dan(BMI)
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