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Topic: EV12L in a Peavey 112 |
Fred Rogan
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Posted 17 May 2010 7:07 pm |
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I have a spare EV 12L which as you probably know is a clean, clear speaker. It is 8 ohms and I notice my Peavey Nashville 112 has a 4 ohm speaker. As much as my Dad tried to teach me, I never learned all that I should know about ohms etc.
Could I put that EV12L into my Nashville 112 without ill effect and any ideas about how it might sound? Anyone ever done that?
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Mike Neer
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Posted 17 May 2010 8:33 pm
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A solid state amp with a label saying "4 ohms" will drive 4, 8, and 16 ohms with no troubles. You can go up but not down. Don't try 2 ohms. It's not the same for tube amps, however; in fact, the reverse.
The EVM12L is a harsh speaker in certain amp--I know I didn't like it in my Music Man. Couldn't venture a guess as to what it would sound like in your Peavey. Guess there's only one way to find out. Make sure to let us know.
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Edward Byrne
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Posted 18 May 2010 2:06 am
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Hi Fred, Mike is correct regarding ohmage, however i disagree regarding the EVM12L being a harsh speaker, i replaced the stock blue marvel speaker with an EVM12L, some three years ago, i find it ultra clean and much more transparent than the blue marvel,certainly a more unforgiving speaker of mistakes, but definately not harsh, incidently my evm12l came out of a musicman rd100 combo, which i found quite a harsh amp, not suited to steel,
i believe if you put in an 8ohm speaker, as against a 4ohm speaker of the same type, into a nashville 112, you would experience lower headroom regards volume, but the EVM 12L 8 OHM speaker, will more than compensate any volume loss, by virtue of being a much more efficient speaker, thats my take on things anyway, im sure ill be corrected if im wrong, |
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Rich Peterson
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Posted 18 May 2010 3:48 pm
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| I agree with Ed. Doubling the impedance will about halve the power, but the EV is so efficient that it sounds like you have twice as much amp power. The EV 12L does not sound harsh to me, and it has a really solid bottom range. The two I have are the original run. I've heard that the reissue might be a bit harsh, but I suspect they will loosen up as they're broken in. |
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Mike Neer
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Posted 18 May 2010 6:41 pm
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I guess it just depends on the amp you have the speaker in. In my Music Man it nearly killed me. I replaced it with a JBL D120 and later an Altec 417-8H, which I'm extremely happy with. It also magnified the harshness of another of my amps, but I forget which.
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John Groover McDuffie
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Posted 18 May 2010 11:24 pm
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| I agree with Ed. Doubling the impedance will about halve the power, but the EV is so efficient that it sounds like you have twice as much amp power. |
Plus you get "magic" boost with an exension speaker - you can use a 2nd 8ohm EV in an extension cab which will make a 4 ohm total load, and you get the full output of the amp, plus the benefit of the EV's higher efficiency and 2x the speaker cone area. |
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Edward Byrne
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Posted 19 May 2010 1:56 am
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'MAGIC BOOST' wow! now that is something i didnt consider, adding a second evm12L, doubling the power and the spread of sound, and gettin back to the amps 4 ohm, i think my search starts here, very hard to locate here in Ireland, but i often purchase from England, also visiting Chicago in 6 weeks time, so i have options, may post a wanted on this forum, thanks john, you just made my mind up for me!
one footnote about speakers and amps, i once owned a lovely Carvin vintage 33 all valve combo, in my wisdom, i replaced the stock speaker with a 250 watt JBL, cant remember the model, and my amp packed up on my first gig with it, when i returned to my music store, i was told i had drained the four little power valves trying to drive the big JBL, would i be right in thinking, this could only happen with a valve amp? it wouldnt damage the peavey nashville 112, trying to drive two EVM12L's, would it???[/quote] |
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Rich Peterson
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Moorhead, MN
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Posted 19 May 2010 5:30 am
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| I can't see how the JBL would have "drained" the power tubes. They might have been ready to fail. Anyway, not to worry with the NV 112. And the extension cab is a good idea. |
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Fred Rogan
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Birmingham, AL USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 7:00 am Ev12l
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Thanks for the great comments. I like the idea about the external cab but there isn't a speaker output on the back is there? If you use the headphone jack it kills the on-board speaker. How would you do it?
thanks
fr
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Rich Hlaves
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Posted 19 May 2010 8:16 am
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Fred,
Another speaker to consider in your search is the EV SRO-12L.(white/cream colored frame with coffee can magnet cover) These are the earlier model of the EVM and IMO even better sounding than the EVM.
My Deluxe Reverb home build has an EVM in it and my 12" Extention cab has an SRO, best of both worlds. These do come up 4 sale on the forum every once in a while.
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Bill A. Moore
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Posted 19 May 2010 3:15 pm
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| Another little known EV speaker is the EVM12S. Long discontinued, the cone is shorter than the EVM12L, and has a more pronounced midrange. EV also used these in their monitors, I have a pair I wouldn't trade for. |
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