Why do some guitars have these screws?

Arne Odegard · From: Norway

I have a Carter D10, theres nothing like that on my changer.
What are they for and am I missing out on something?

Best Regards
Arne

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

For split tuning strings that raise and lower the same string. An example would be raising string 5 B to C# and hitting the knee lever that lowers the B to Bb. You will somewhere close to a C note, but it will probably be out of tune. These screws allow you to have the C in tune.

EDIT: I notice you have a Carter. They use a system of using an extra rod to pull the notes in tune. On my Carter, I lower string 6 from G# to F# on a knee lever. When combined with the B pedal, I should get a G note. If I use the tuner for the F# lower to split the 6th string to get a G, then the F# is flat. The extra rod is hooked to the same lever as the lower, but it is a raise rod that you can use to tune the F# note.
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Arne Odegard · From: Norway

Thanks Richard
It seems to me that there would be more possibilities on this type of changer than the Carter. (more to screw with) Smile

Would I want more splits or do people just use the one, as I have on my Carter?

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Arne you can add a lot more splits to a Carter just by adding extra rods !! So long as there is a spare spot in the changer you can add a split....

Having said that, when you have the bolts in the back of the changer as well it gives you the scope to do more.
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Bent Romnes · From: London,Ontario, Canada

Hey Arne,
You live in the Mandal area if I'm not mistaken....
When you get familiar with the split tuning screws, would you please do me a favor? Gustav Haugedal in Skien has a brand new Rains and doesn't know the first thing about them.If you would contact him and explain them to him, I am sure you'd do a better job of it than I can. Thanks in advance!
Bent
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Jerry Roller · From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA

I think all pedal steel guitars should have those split tuners, however, as someone mentioned, you can add a rod if the holes in the changer are vacant. When a raise and a lower are engaged at the same such as raise 6th string a half tone with the B pedal then lower it a whole tone the resulting "G" note can be tuned with the lowering tuner nut, then when the lever than lowers the 6th string a whole tone is engaged by its self it is going to result in a slightly flat F# so you need a raise rod added to nudge that F# up into tune or better still have that split tuner screw in the end of the changer to tune the F# note by not allow the drop to go past proper pitch. Tune open strings, then tune the raise, then tune the split with the lowering nylon tuning nut, then tune the lowered note with the split tuner in the changer end. Before started this process make certain the split screw is backed out far enough to not affect anything before you are ready for it.
Jerry

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

this is the main update improvement on modern steels. otherwise, msa pretty much developed the basic foundation for mechanics of a modern steel 35 years ago. the 1st legrande emmons in the 80's was the introduction to the split tuning concept commercially. zum and jch were also using them.
my zum came out at around that time without the split screws. then bruce sent me the end blocks with the screws in them. very easy installation....i would think that most modern all pull changers would easily adapt the screws being added. i wouldn't buy a new steel that didn't have them.

Arne Odegard · From: Norway

Thanks to all of you...
I've only been playing steel for 2 years and had never seen a steel guitar up close before I purchased my Carter which I'm really happy with. In the future I would like to get a second guitar and in the process of looking at other guitars I noticed the different changer designs. So now at least I know a second guitar is going to have this type of changer.

Paddy, which of your Zumsteels do you like best?

Bent, I've just started trying to wrap my head around the mechanics of my Carter so I'd most likely do more damage than good trying to explain how a changer works. I would like to try a Rains guitar though.
Are you coming back to the old country this summer? Hope to meet you sometime. I live at Maaltrostveien 22 Vennesla just north of Kristiansand. Do a google map search to see where I live.
Georg Sortun lives in Mandal. He's been over at my house a couple of times and I really learned a lot from him.

Thanks again..
Arne

Bent Romnes · From: London,Ontario, Canada

Hi Arne,
Georg was here for a few days in March and he told me about you.
I'm sure if you call Gustav, and say hi from me, that he would be delighted to have you visit and see his Rains. There you can see first hand how those tuning screws work.

Sorry, this year won't be enough time to go back to Norway as we are having visitors from there and also have some family functions to do. But trust me, once I do get back "home" again I will pay you a visit in Vennesla. Never been down that way as I remember.
Keep up the steel playing my man. I think it is amazing how the interest for steel has developed in Norway!
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