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George Rout


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Post  Posted 7 Sep 2009 2:00 pm    
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I've been struggling with C6th for many years. I can play the ECAGECAG from tab okay, although I can't play in the tuning by ear.

Recently, I got the Rob Haines DVD with the
G E C A G E C A which has the sound I really like. And, the root note is on the 3rd string which any old geizer A Major player will tell you that it's hard as heck when the root note is moved to another string.

Pardon my ignorance if this has been asked before because I don't frequent the TAB section of the forum very much.

But, can somebody direct me (I'm always asking that question!!!) to where I can find some tab for the High G tuning, such as Cheating Heart or similar simple tunes. While Rob's video is really great and any wannabe should be able to learn it, some simple tab will help me also.

I wish my mother could have afforded the $2 per week course back in 1948 and not the $1 per week to learn A Major!!!!

Geo
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 7 Sep 2009 4:34 pm    
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Hi George, get a hold of Roy Thomson. He offers a course for C6 top to bottom (C E G A C E) in which teaches some Hank Williams and Hank Snow tunes. It's for 6 string but would still work for you. Click Here

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George Rout


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Post  Posted 7 Sep 2009 5:41 pm    
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Hi Andy and thanks for your input. However, I see Roy's tuning as E C A G E C (C@). I know Roy personally. Maybe I'm thick skulled, but I'm looking for G E C A G E C A per the Rob Haines DVD on C6th.

Geo
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 7 Sep 2009 8:51 pm    
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Your right George, Roy's tuning is listed (high to low) and I listed mine (low to high, each is correct, so C E G A C E is the middle six strings of G E C A G E C A, your tuning.
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 8 Sep 2009 3:38 am    
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That's okay Andy. When I took lessons in 1948 the strings were always listed high to low. It seem that the "low to high" listing has been only in the last 20 years. I've noticed when I've asked some folks to pluck the first string, they pick the last!!!! It must be a "natural" thing, maybe because the string closest to you seems like the first to some folks.

Thanks again.

Geo
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John Bresler R.I.P.

 

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Post  Posted 8 Sep 2009 6:24 am    
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George

Here's a link to Dick Meis' web site. He has a C6th course with the High G on top (non-pedal).

Dick is an excellent teacher and picker!

http://www.pedalsteelguitar.net/index.php?disp=detail&subcat=bookcdnp&id=242

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Roy Thomson


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Post  Posted 8 Sep 2009 6:45 am    
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Geo,

Cindy Cashdollar has two videos for C6 with the
high "G". They are instructional for Western Swing
style playing. Your local music store may have them
in stock? If not do a Google search for Cindy Cashdollar.
A student of mine has both and let me see them
a few years ago. Well done and I think it is
what you are looking for?

Good Luck.

Roy
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 10 Sep 2009 9:23 am    
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Thank you John & Roy. I appreciate. I'll look into both.

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Roy Thomson


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Post  Posted 10 Sep 2009 10:09 am    
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No problem Geo.

Cindy's Video is fairly advanced material and
there is no Tab that I am aware of?
It is Western Swing based and may not have songs
you are seeking?

If you don't find what you are after let me know.
You can select 6 songs ( your choice)and I will tab them for C6 with the high G. I will string up an 8 string accordingly and do MP3 to match the Tab. We could work something out I am sure so far as cost.

Good luck.

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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 10 Sep 2009 11:48 am    
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Hi Guys, I have both of Cindy's western swing videos and yes, they both include tab. Very Happy
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 10 Sep 2009 11:52 am    
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Thanks again guys. I have to look up the Cindy Cashdollar stuff I have in my own library, and I may have it. I need a clone of me, but my wife says that one of me is plenty.

I have ordered Dick Meis' course, so that will get me started (if not finished) anyway. Thanks for all your offers and help.

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Morgan Scoggins

 

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Post  Posted 18 Sep 2009 4:14 am    
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George,
There is a book by Don Helms calles "Your Cheatin' Heart". It has the tab for ten of HW Sr songs in E6 Tuning.The E6 tuning is higer pitched than the C6 and gives that real "Honkey tonk sound". Back in those days the loud noise in the old honkey tonks required a higher pitch in order to be heard above the noise. Don Helms recorded all of Hanks songs in E6 tuning.
The book is sold thru the SGF and also at Scotty's Music in St. Louis, Mo. It is fairly easy and needs only 6 strings with no bar slants.The tuning is from hi to low G#, E,C#,B,G#,E. You can easily change to this tuning from the C6 with a high G on top.
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 19 Sep 2009 4:57 pm    
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Hi Morgan and thanks for your input. I've done a search on the Forum and also at Scotty's site and I don't see such a book!!!!!!

The closest I see is an E13th tuning, edited by Scotty and it has more than 10 songs.

Maybe it's something that's out of print????

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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 19 Sep 2009 5:44 pm    
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George, "Your Cheatin Heart" is available here on the forum under "Lap/Nonpedal" instruction. Here's a link. Click Here and scroll down to it.
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 19 Sep 2009 6:12 pm    
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Thanks Andy. I looked under the fourm index of "Instruction" and there were tons of threads, so I did two searches, one for the book as titled, the other for Don Helms. I didn't recognize the E13 as being E6th on the top six strings. I'll look into that. With all these courses coming out of my head, I'm sure to learn something!!! Thanks again.

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Charles Kleinert


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Post  Posted 24 Sep 2009 5:59 am    
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George:

If you are looking for tabs in C6 Hi G; you might check out Herb Remingtons tabs; they are for A6, but can be played in Hi C6, they will just be in a different key;

Have fun,

chuck
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George Rout


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Post  Posted 24 Sep 2009 7:42 am    
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Thanks Charles. That sounds very interesting. I'll check that out.
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Steve Ahola


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2010 3:30 pm    
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George Rout wrote:
That's okay Andy. When I took lessons in 1948 the strings were always listed high to low. It seem that the "low to high" listing has been only in the last 20 years. I've noticed when I've asked some folks to pluck the first string, they pick the last!!!! It must be a "natural" thing, maybe because the string closest to you seems like the first to some folks.


George:

If the strings are listed vertically I like to see them from high to low. If the strings are listed horizontally I like to see them from low to high. In both cases the text resembles what I see looking up towards the headstock. Like this:

G#
E
C#
B
G#
E

E,G#,B,C#,E,G#

But the highest string is always the first string, even if it might be listed last.

Confusin', ain't it?

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