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Buddy Castleberry
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HAWKINSVILLE GA USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2010 9:23 am |
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ive been reading all the posting about emmons
guitar co.,and i know theve had problems.
but how many of you have had or knew some who
had a company that had problems.then everyone
started bashing them and saying dont buy from
these people .then all of a sudden there out of business.emmons builds one of the finess steels
on the market today ,do we really want to see this company go out of business.i for one dont .
i remember when ron took the company back over
after jim ran it in the ground and took peoples
money.i think there was one case someone had paid
jim for a guitar and lost there money then wanted
ron to take the loss and build the guitar.that puts you in the red to start with .and i know they have problems but sometimes there two sides .
so ya,ll dont jump on me to hard ,just my opinon
i dont want to see any steel co. go under everbody needs a choice |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 19 May 2010 9:31 am
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ok...here's their chance. tell us what the problem is. apologize to the italians. give them a g**d*** pedalboard. apologize some more. explain what the problem is. give some money back to ivano and apologize some more. ..and thank paolo for being so considerate.
i hear nothing from them... |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 19 May 2010 9:41 am
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....and just to come full circle and be fair, i'm quite sure that if the shoe were on the other foot...if the emmons co. was getting a raw deal...the forum members would be going to bat for them just as adamantly!
however, that doesn't appear to be the case at the moment. |
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Charlie St Denis
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 19 May 2010 9:53 am
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100% what Chris said. Here's their chance to
make it right. If it ain't too late. Those
boys from Italy are class acts and earned my
RESPECT. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 19 May 2010 10:10 am
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It's probably too late for the Emmons Co. to save face.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 10:29 am
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Long live the Emmons Guitar Co. and the Lashleys!  |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 19 May 2010 10:37 am
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| maybe they should start making henways! |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 10:40 am
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Paolo Ercoli
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Italy
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Posted 19 May 2010 11:00 am
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Buddy, I'm with you. Everybody can make mistakes, everybody have problems. And I don't want to see such a big Company close or all the other things that someone here said.
Still I think you missed the point here.
We did some things, and as an answer from them they tell Ivano is a liar. I saw Ivano putting the pedal board on the guitar for sending it back, and now they say the pedal board was not inside ? are you kidding ? which kind of person are they ? Did you see the picture of the red psg I put on the web ? Do you know what they said as the reason why Ivano didn't want that psg ? I tell you. They said that Ivano sent back the psg because he didn't like the colour. Now, men, wait a moment and let's think.
Then, there are always 2 side of the story ? Ok, perfect. I'm here, alone, little boy from far away, fighting for what is right for me, waiting for their side of the story. When they want, I'm here.
after 2 and a half year, we are not worthy of some kind of explication ? If you could read the mail that I received privately of people that had problems with them, maybe, I say maybe, your thoughts are a little different. For respect and to meet their willing I won't post their trouble that they wrote to me.
In all this time, not a word like "sorry guys, but , which is the problem ? are you sure we didn't understand? what can we do to fix this thing, tell us what we can do and tell us where we were wrong, maybe we made a mistakes or we didn't understand your english very well, let's solve the matter in some kind of ways" . This is what I'm expecting from a Company which I deal with. A normal talk from a customer to a seller. Not 7 month of silence. And then all the other things.
Erv, long live to you as well. |
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Buddy Castleberry
From:
HAWKINSVILLE GA USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2010 11:29 am
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paolo im not refering to just your problem
im just sort of looking out
for a company may it be emmons ,carter ,or zum
or any other that gets into trouble |
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 19 May 2010 11:55 am
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You sound like a nice guy Buddy. Paolo and Ivano certainly are, with patience of a saint. I'm not as nice. I believe any company that treats people the way Lashley is treating Paolo and Ivano, as well as several others recently, DESERVES to be in trouble, in fact doesn't deserve to be in business. It's a disgrace to the name Emmons. 
Last edited by Jim Phelps on 19 May 2010 12:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 11:58 am
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Jim,
The best of luck to you, also. |
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:01 pm
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Yeah, you too, Erv ol' buddy.  |
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:13 pm
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Emmons makes great guitars and I wouldn`t hesitate to buy guitar made by Emmons Co. but not FROM Emmons Co., I would go to the store and buy one in stock and take it home with me...
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:21 pm
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Yes Damir, that is what everyone has been suggesting for a few years now... but it's still not the way it should be.
I'm not hoping Emmons disappears, and don't believe that the end of this company would be the end of the guitar. This has been going on for years now with problems just like Paolo's. This isn't right. What I mean is, it doesn't appear that Ron Jr. gives a crap about his customers or the reputation of his company. So let him run his company into the ground, and then maybe someone else who actually cares and respects their customers can buy it and revive the name Emmons as a great steel as well as a reputable company that values its customers. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:28 pm
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I don't care one way or the other if Emmons goes out of business. Many other great steel companies have gone out of business for various reason. The poor excuse of a person/persons that own/run the company have no conscience, morals or the intelligence to run a company. I wish they would sell the company to someone with the qualities that they obviously lack, and get the Hell out of the business. The way they handle problems is a disgrace.
All you Emmons lovers can flame away if you wish. It has no effect on me. I wouldn't take an Emmons product if you gave it to me.
Oh, by the way, I do think the Emmons is a fine guitar (even now), but no better than any of the other major brands.
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Buddy Castleberry
From:
HAWKINSVILLE GA USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:30 pm
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| bob lets close this one |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:32 pm
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| Richard doesn't want an Emmons guitar, even for free, but I'm sure open to accept one anytime somebody feels generous. |
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Jim Phelps
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Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:36 pm
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Gotta agree with you Erv, despite I have no love for the current Emmons company, I wouldn't refuse a good deal on an older one. Don't think I'd want a new one.
So Buddy wants to close the thread now. Guess we were all supposed to agree with him. |
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Fred Shannon
From:
Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:44 pm
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Buddy C:"im just sort of looking out
for a company may it be emmons ,carter ,or zum
or any other that gets into trouble."
Buddy I would find it very difficult to defend a company who absolutely refuses to defend itself. Let's hear Emmons' side of the story; well we're waiting and listening. If they don't want to state what happened from their point of view then------ 
phred
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:44 pm
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Jim,
I don't have a LeGrande III but I do have a couple of Legrande II's and, believe me, that is a FINE guitar. |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:46 pm
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These days every company, no matter what business they're in, needs a good online presence. A modern, user-friendly web site and at least some participation in forums and blogs that relate to their business. For whatever reason, Emmons doesn't seem to be interested in doing this.
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Ross Shafer
From:
Petaluma, California
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Posted 19 May 2010 12:55 pm
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I owned and operated my own high end bicycle frame and component company for 21 years. I had as many as 17 employees at one point. We had a few products that I designed and outsourced in the US, Italy and Taiwan, but we made the vast bulk of our products right here in California. We sold to over 2 thousand dealers in the US and had distributors in every major bicycle market around the world. I hated being a boss and sold the business in 1997...it was sellable because we had a great reputation built on quality goods and excellent customer service. Great product alone don't cut it in a competitive market.
We made lots of custom made to order items and had shelves full of stock items. Did we make mistakes...you betcha! Everyone does and those that say they don't are either lying or ignorant. When mistakes happened, I found almost universally that my customers didn't judge us by whether we made mistakes or not, but how we dealt with them when they came up. I swear some of our most loyal customers were those that we'd successfully navigated through a mistake of our own. Did we learn from our mistakes?...Oh yeah!
If even 1/2 of this saga is true...I'm here to tell you Emmons, an iconic brand that I once had great respect for (due to the history and traditionally awesome product), is doing everything wrong. The best thing they could've done is take care of these guys right away...the second best thing would've been to get here on the forum and hip us to their side of this in a manner as respectful and open as Ivano and Paolo have. The quieter they are about this the further they drag the good name of Emmons down.
Ain't no shame in admitting a mistake...the behavior Emmons has demonstrated in this outrageous tale, if true (...I'm open to more facts here) is shameful to say the least. |
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Paul E. Brennan
From:
Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 19 May 2010 1:01 pm
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| As far as I'm concerned the Emmons Company no longer exists. I wouldn't dream of doing business with a company that conducts itself in this manner. I very much doubt if anybody else, after reading the various threads about that company on this forum, would do any business with them either. It's just a pity that Buddy Emmons has to be one the people reading about the disgraceful carry on of the people who are in charge of manufacturing the instrument that bears his name. |
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Buddy Castleberry
From:
HAWKINSVILLE GA USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2010 1:26 pm Close This One
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| BOB PLEASE CLOSE |
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