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Topic: My major label debut!.. |
Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 6:07 pm
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Well it IS 20 or more years old,but hey I finally found it!.. This was the epitome of my career. Playing on a major label recording[Chrysalis] at an internationally known studio [Bearsville]. It was a very good alternative/Americana band that was big on the college circuit in the 80's -Winter Hours.. They had several albums out, and a nice "cult" following.
This is not country, its kind of Americana rock, and I remember the singer/writer seething at the producer for gutting the steel.. I had some great stuff, the band LOVED what I did, and the producer promptly hacked and buried almost all of it, despite what the band thought. They had NO say. Incredible.
The producer had national cred, the record company hired him, so his ideas were set in stone, non negotiable.
He of course felt the steel made the song "too country"
I lay a pad on the vocals , do some nice harmonics, and even get a small break beside a mandolin.
No complaints, I was well payed, and played the album release party at the Bottom Line in NYC to a packed house... Steel was my old MSA S-10 with 3 pickups!
Again, its not country, but I always loved this one.. Its got a "big studio" sound too. Much better production than what I am used to, even to this day..
I remember hearing my playing on this tune on the radio several times while at my day job, and I was running through the shop for everyone to listen!.. Hey man, thats ME playing on the radio!!!
Wish I could go back, in retrospect they were pretty good days.... bob
Link to iLike.com web site _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 6:38 pm
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Sorry, I have been informed that even linked the song has been reduced to a 30 sec clip... my apologies.
I played it through in its entirety, and I guess it was one shot teaser, and after that you have to buy it money grubbers _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Rick Abbott
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 6:50 pm
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Bob, I listened to the whole thing: you kick @$$ on the harmonics!!!! Sure, the guy-in-charge robbed you of some space...but you got more than many players on "modern country" songs and you played some extremely tasty stuff. The guy must have hit his head at some point. GREAT playing. Thanks for sharing. _________________ RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer |
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Joe A. Camacho
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 7:10 pm
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Wow, that's great Bob, I used to love Winter Hours. You're playing may have been the spark that made me want to learn to play pedal steel. Thank you. |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 7:24 pm
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Wow.. those last 2 replies have made my evening.. My week actually!... Thanks for those kind words guys!
Yeah, that was a really good band.
They still have lots of fans too.. All grown up now of course, but they listened to a LOT of "alt" stuff in those days,,, bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Bob Vantine
From: Freeville, New York, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 7:49 pm
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I believe I listen to you on some cuts from the mid 90s done at Masterview on a session with an old friend of mine . I've always enjoyed your work . _________________ EQUIPMENT:
"TEAK" ZUM STAGE-ONE Steel / C6th Lapsteel
Peavey NV112 , CLASSIC and EFX112 amps
Peavey Guitars |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 7:55 pm
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The song played all the way through for me several times. Good song, good production, you sound great. The harmonics are very nice indeed, and although it's a supporting part, I didn't find the steel particularly buried in the mix - the tone was crystal clear - so much for the 'dark MSA' stereotype, eh? Do you recall whether you were using multiple pickups on this? - the tone is really nice.
It's obviously intended as a radio-friendly 'alternative' music mix, I found it pretty clean and uncluttered. Maybe that's just compared to what I'm hearing these days. Lots of '60s influences, cool stuff. |
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
From: Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 9:50 pm
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Very nice job, Bob. I was able to hear the track in its entirety and enjoyed every moment. _________________ 1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks) |
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Ransom Beers
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Posted 16 Mar 2010 11:55 pm
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Well I for one like it.Very tastefully done in spite of the producer.I think if that song were remixed in todays music you'd have a top 40 slot on the airwaves. |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 1:53 am
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Dave Mudgett wrote: |
The song played all the way through for me several times. Good song, good production, you sound great. The harmonics are very nice indeed, and although it's a supporting part, I didn't find the steel particularly buried in the mix - the tone was crystal clear - so much for the 'dark MSA' stereotype, eh? Do you recall whether you were using multiple pickups on this? - the tone is really nice.
It's obviously intended as a radio-friendly 'alternative' music mix, I found it pretty clean and uncluttered. Maybe that's just compared to what I'm hearing these days. Lots of '60s influences, cool stuff. |
Dave.. I guess "buried" is too harsh a word... He just took a lot of stuff out, and did a lot of "cutting and pasting".. There are a few little parts that are non secquiter that he took from one place and stuck in another that kind of bug me.. However everything about my playing bugs me, so it just might be my skewed perception...
The MSA was a battered old S-10 with 5 and 4.. It had A GeorgeL 10-5 near the changer , an original Sho Bud coil tap pickup in the center, and the original MSA single coil near the neck.. It had a bewildering array of switches, my very own special
""custom wiring"" and many crazy out of phasy combinations.. From very bright and airy to real thick.. Even a lot of very glassy strat like "quack".
Loved that guitar.. It lacked sustain pretty badly, but really had great tone. Everyone liked the sound of it. Wish I had it back.. I wore it out, and sold it for parts. The body was horribly battered, but mechanically she was still good.
Thanks for the kind words Dave! _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time......
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 1:58 am
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Bob Vantine wrote: |
I believe I listen to you on some cuts from the mid 90s done at Masterview on a session with an old friend of mine . I've always enjoyed your work . |
Bob.. wow- Etna. I drive my school bus right near there every day.. I get coffee and turn around at the Valero or Nyseg on 366!
Yes I seem to recall doing a steel session or two at Masterview. Best studio in the area IMHO.
I don't recall who I did it for, but I did some.. any way you might be able to email me the cuts?.. Do you have them somewhere by chance? bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 7:32 am
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Great job Bob.
The drummer sounds like a studio drummer! Great drum sound. |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 9:52 am
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Good stuff, I will look out for the vinyl. Hope I'm lucky! |
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Larry Robbins
From: Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 10:19 am
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Diggin' it,Bob!
You got the stuff my friend
I played in a lot of those type bands back in the day and it still has big place in my heart. yup...could listen to you play all day! _________________ Twang to the bone! |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 10:53 am
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Well, now that I'm done being Mister Smarty Pants, I finally got to listen to the clip. I like it! If you hadn't told us about all your parts that were taken out, I never would have known it. I think the steel has, to my ears and taste, adequate and appropriate prominence throughout the song. Any more, and it might actually have been "too much" (I know, I know...) Look at it this way, for an alt-rock type tune where the producer didn't want it to sound "too country", they left a whole mess of steel in!
Just my two cents, FWIW (usually about half the face value...) _________________ www.JimCohen.com
www.RonstadtRevue.com
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 2:15 pm
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Jim Cohen wrote: |
Well, now that I'm done being Mister Smarty Pants, I finally got to listen to the clip. I like it! If you hadn't told us about all your parts that were taken out, I never would have known it. I think the steel has, to my ears and taste, adequate and appropriate prominence throughout the song. Any more, and it might actually have been "too much" (I know, I know...) Look at it this way, for an alt-rock type tune where the producer didn't want it to sound "too country", they left a whole mess of steel in!
Just my two cents, FWIW (usually about half the face value...) |
What??!... Taking the side of a PRODUCER against a brother steel guitarist?
Never thought I'd see a day this dark.. a turncoat in our ranks ... Its blasphemy I tell you! _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Stan Schober
From: Cahokia, Illinois, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 2:15 pm
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Great tune !
Played all the way through for me also.
(might be a cookie problem on your machine.) _________________ Emmons S-8 P/P,DeArmond 40. Slowly drifting back towards sanity. |
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David Wren
From: Placerville, California, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 2:24 pm
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Very nice Bob.
I too received a recording contract in '93 for a song I wrote.... it was only $350.00, but the good news was I could pay it in $15.00 installments _________________ Dave Wren
'96 Carter U12,7X7; 1936 7 string National; Line 6 HX Stomp; Quilter TT-15/TB202; Quilter "Steelaire"; DV Mark "GH 250"with 15" 1501 BW; Boss "Katana" 100 Head w/Line 6 Cab; Telonics VP. |
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Bob Vantine
From: Freeville, New York, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 3:16 pm
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Bob--
YES , it was for Barb H.--she was my bass player at the time . The lead man is a friend of mine too (Wade J).
I have the CD - I'll get you a copy .
I'll give you a yell & maybe meet for coffee . Again nice playing!
Thanks----**BOB** PS) got your Sho Bud on the brain--love them old naturals _________________ EQUIPMENT:
"TEAK" ZUM STAGE-ONE Steel / C6th Lapsteel
Peavey NV112 , CLASSIC and EFX112 amps
Peavey Guitars |
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 5:13 pm
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I should think that to hear one's work on the radio must be the nicest warm fuzzy (A term from the I'm OK, You're OK dude).
Nice work Bob. |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 5:15 pm
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Very tasteful playing Bob. |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 17 Mar 2010 5:32 pm
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Bob,Nice playing! _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Jonathan Shacklock
From: London, UK
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Posted 18 Mar 2010 5:43 am
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Very nice playing Bob, I would definitely have had you come back in at the end, the guitar solo is just kind of ho-hum - needed steel to bring the whole thing home. Oh well, that's my armchair producer comment for the day |
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Bent Romnes
From: London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Mar 2010 8:20 am
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Bob, nice work, even considering how you were held back. What I heard was a rich, clean sounding steel with lots of "body". _________________ BenRom Pedal Steel Guitars
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