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Topic: Strat Mod? |
Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 12:20 pm |
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Hey Gang, I am searching for a Strat Mod whereby, iirc, you move a wire to have the position-4 changed from neck & middle pickup, to neck & bridge pickup.
Anybody remeber the procedure for that mod?
Someone posted about it here once, but i can't find it in the search engine. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 1:53 pm
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| I substitute a push/pull pot for the volume pot. Hook a wire from the "input" side of the switch, where the wire from the bridge pickup connects, to the pot's switch connections, and from the other pot switch connection back to the "output side of the switch. That way I can get all combinations, including neck/bridge, and all three at once. Doesn't answer your question though! |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From:
Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 2:23 pm
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| Pete,I don't think that can be done with a standard 5 way although I saw a post, somewhere, that said it can be done.I use a Dimarzio 5 way for that configuration.Another way that I've done is by using a 3 way wired like a Tele and putting the mid pup on a seperate switch.. |
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Jason Hull
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 3:53 pm
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Last edited by Jason Hull on 4 May 2012 2:35 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From:
Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 5:01 pm
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| I was hoping to hear from someone that could do it.Thanks Jason.Lookin'forward to your drawing.. |
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Jerry Erickson
From:
Atlanta,IL 61723
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 6:11 pm
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| At one time, I rewired a 5 way switch so that the bridge and middle positions were reversed. That gave me the neck and bridge in position 4, bridge in 3, bridge and middle in 2 and middle in position 1. I tend to prefer the bridge and middle combo as opposed to the neck and middle. |
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Chris Dorch
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 7:01 pm
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My nashville tele used to be set up like that..
bridge
bridge - neck
neck
neck - middle
middle
Switch the hot wires... the whites.. and you can have the above...
remember though, strats have dual tone pots.. You might want to consider what you do with them as well... |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2010 5:52 am
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Meh..waste of time.
By far the best switching setup for a strat is 3 mini toggles. Fits right in the slot where the 5 way switch is.
Drill 3 small hole right in that slot.
If that makes you queasy, buy a cheap aftermarket pickguard and use that, and keep the original in the case.. It takes all of about 40 minutes, and you get 7 pickup combinations instead of 5..been doing it for years
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2010 6:18 am
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Thanks, Guys.
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2010 7:48 am
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| Bob, my mod requires only the changing of one pot. No drilling required. It retains all the stock operations of the 5-way switch. I did use the three toggles on a 3 pup Tele with a Schecter body though. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From:
Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Feb 2010 8:19 am
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On my last couple of Strats I've replaced one of the tone pots with a blend pot, so I can blend in the neck pup when I'm using the bridge pup, and vice versa. Works great and the advantage over other similar mods is that you can blend in the other pup gradually, it's not an on/off thing. The other tone pot is then wired as a master tone for all positions.
This is a fairly standard mod and I'm sure the schematic is easy to find online, don't have it myself anymore (don't have any Strats either..).
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 3:51 am
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I agree with Bob Carlucci as to the mini toggle switches. I've got 'em on both my Strat & Tele and wouldn't have it any other way! Here's a couple of shots.........JH in Va.
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 10:03 am
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| Jerry, What do the two remaining knobs do on your strat? I see you removed the one closest to the strings. That one kinda bugs me when playing, too. |
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 7:10 pm
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Can be done with just two 3-position toggles. #1 selects bridge and/or the second switch. #2 selects middle and/or neck.
Three on-off switches means there's an open ungrounded cable when all are off. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2010 5:13 am
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Push/Pull switch mod.
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 1 Mar 2010 12:32 pm
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Hey Pete, I have three Strats set up the same way. As you probably know, the Strat has no tone control on the bridge pickup and since I hate that top volume control that's always in the way I just have mine set up with a master volume and tone controls in those positions, the tone being the one on the bottom and they work on all three pickups.
I also have one Tele with the regular 3 way toggle switch and a middle pickup which is on a mini toggle all by itself and it just turns that pickup on/off so I can add it in a any position....JH in Va.
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2010 10:49 am
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O.K. so i went with the 3-switch method and this is how it came out.
Overall... I don't find the All-On, or Bridge-Neck, to be a usefull as i had imagined, and I have found i can switch a 5-way faster than I can switch these buttons.
Also, I couldn't imagine why I would ever use the All-Off mode, but I now see that it is hard to avoid it when switching from one single pickup - to another single pickup. I like the 5 way switch better, as there is never an off position, and I jump from middle only to bridge only with a quick karate' chop, and no momentary zero volume.
I will be going back to the 5-way switch, although the guy did an extemely nice job of rocker switch installation. |
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Allan Munro
From:
Pennsylvania, USA and Scotland
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Posted 13 Mar 2010 2:07 pm
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I have the three, three-position toggles on one of my strats. Only way to go for me. I do like the bridge-neck/out-of-phase sound too. Never thought to get rid of the third pot though. I have the second tone control out of the circuit - master volume/master tone set up - but I never thought to move them down and loose that one that bugs me at the top there. (DUH!) Gonna happen next time I change strings though. LOL, I could cut a clear plastic piece and put a couple of flashing colored LED's in there. That would confuse the enemy!
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Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Don McGregor
From:
Memphis, Tennessee
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Posted 14 Mar 2010 5:59 am
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I had Steve Newman, now at Martin's in Memphis, replace the lower two pots on my American Standard with two push pull pots, and wire it so that the bottom one is a coil cutter for the Lil' JB bridge PU, and the center pot when pulled turns on that bridge PU no matter what else is going on. This gives me more options than I ever need, as I can turn on all three PUs at once, with or without the coil cut, still use the original five way settings, and, and one of my favorites, the one I do use at times, bridge and neck PUs only.
Of course, I have no idea how Steve wired all this. Perhaps magic. It's a good, clean looking set up, though, without the clutter of adding toggle switches.
I did replace the knobs with some vintage Tele knobs, as I found in a hot club or stage setting, the original Strat knobs are slippery to the grip when trying to pull one.
I also have a bad habit of allowing the side of my hand to hit the volume knob on a Strat when playing anything hard and frenetic, which accidentally turns my volume down a bit every time I hit it. Therefore, I placed a rubber washer over the shaft and snugged between the bottom of the knob and the surface of the guitar. When adjusted properly, this adds just the amount of resistance needed so that accidentally brushing it does not turn it, yet it turns easily when I want to.
Some of these other guys are giving you the information you need. I'm just suggesting a good way to go about it that works for me. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2010 6:46 am
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| Don, your method and mine are very similar. I forgot to mention that when the pot is pulled to turn on my bridge pup, it sends the signal through a tone pot, which is very handy. With the 5-way in the bridge position, when you pull the pot, you have tone control on the bridge pup. |
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