CHORDS for a 6string tuned in C6

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Is there a web page that shows the chords for a 6 string tuned in C6? or where would I find a chord chart for the above

thanks

Dean from S.I. NY
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Gary Boyett · From: Colorado

The best one that I know of is Here

Just change the strings on the left side to match your steel.

You can print the chords and make your own book.

Good luck.

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

that will work, thanks

dean from S.I. ny
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Kevin Brown · From: England

I have never understood this web site, it shows notes and number in scale, but where does it show chords in C6th, also I type in C6th tuning and it shows some weird unrecognisable alternative, Iv looked for ages a few times and never quite understood where the chords are shown, please help

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Well I'm new to the Steel as well as you I guess. Like you I don't fully understand this either The tuning I use is C6 and I guess it is different then what the web page shows for C6. However, the tuning for C6 I have been told is: from low to high
C - E - G - A - C -E So you have to type these in individually on each string or you can use the + or -to change each note of the strings. from what I gather and I did and it looked right!

What makes it a little more difficult it appears you have to change (re edit) this when you change the cords, or I do anyway, as it doesn't stay for me. So when your looking up chords, always check your tuning and be sure they have n't changed.

To find the major chords know the notes of each fret on the 6th string for example: 6 string at the nut starts with: C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C

So a C chord would could be played open at the nut or at the 12th fret. Do not play the 3rd string!!!!!

for minors you use the 3rd string to find the minor chords. For example: 3 string at the nut starts with: A A# B C C# D D# E F F# G G# A
on minor chords DON'T USE THE 4TH STRING. So hopefully this will clarify it more, so Am could be played open at the nut or on the 12th fret, not hitting the 4th string! I hope this helps you

now knowing the above set the tuning on the web page nd look at the C chord and you will see the chord at the nut and at the 12th fret, now look at the Am again you will see it at the open nut and at the 12th fret. as you change chords hope you can see the difference here

I hope Im right anyway and I hope this helps you. What I also did is I took each string and each fret and on a piece of paper and wrote out each note for each string! for example:

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

What makes a piano easier to play is that it has a middle C, and in reading music there is a middle C. However even though you have different octives, middle C is always middle C. On a guitar and I guess this is one reason I never learned where all the notes were on each string was because there is so many octives or I guess called positions. And you really have to know where all the notes are on each octive or position! So you really I guess have to know where that middle C is in all of those octives or positions.

Too damn many for me to grasp thats for sure!

But I am working on that as well but doubt if I will ever get them memorized. But have fun thats all that counts as you are getting more and more confused like me! lololl

At 60, I have no clue other then my mother gave me a old steel guitar that she bought in the early 50's that she never learned how to play. So being I have this thing, thought I would give it a try just to see if I could learn it. If I learn 1 or two songs on it think I'll be happy. I know my mother will be as back in the 50's the small town that she lived in had no music instructors and there was really no litature at all but what came with the guitar so she just never got of first base and finally gave up.

I am also finding that in many ways it is easier to learn the steel then it was the little I know about the guitar. Piano is far more easier and ya don't have to make weird finger patterns to make chords. lololol or work on getting callouses
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Kevin Brown · From: England

Dear Dean, may I just thank you for going out of your way to help an old member, for a new forumite you have certainly been generous with your time, many thanks, your helpfull comments have been well absorbed

Rocky Hill · From: Prairie Village,Kansas, USA

Here is chart I made. I showed all the notes on the neck and used the chord finder for most of the triads. you can print it out and use the chord finder yourself and find all the in between chords

Rocky

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Your chart is simular to what I made the other day. However, I like yours better. it took me awhile to figure out how to enlarge your jpg, but I got it finally. Thanks. I was going to work on the 7ths today but got lazy, but will work on those this coming week. Once I get those figured out then back to practicing. think I'll wait on the dim and aug chords for awhile. Getting over my head the way it is.

Thanks again This should help a lot of beginners.

Dean from S.I. NY
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Steve Atwood · From: Massachusetts, USA

Dean, I also played guitar (classical) for 20 years without learning the names of the notes. I figured out by ear that, for example, the note between the second and third lines from the top on the sheet music was the note on the first fret of the second string. So my C6 chord chart also ignores the names of the notes. It's an old Microsoft Works spreadsheet so I can't post it here, but for each chord there's a diagram of the fretboard. Wherever a note from the major chord is on the fretboard, it's represented by an M. So a C chord shows an M on the 1st fret on strings 1, 2, 4, and 5; on the 3rd fret on strings 1, 3, 5, and 6, and so on. The fretboard has three columns in each fret, one for the Ms, one for the ms (notes of the minor chord), and one for the 7s (notes of the 7th chord). If you think you can open the file I could email it to you.

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Thanks I will surely try to open the file. I have the major and minors down. Well I think I do anyway. Now trying to figure out the 7ths, so would be glad to take a look at your stuff

dsalisbury@si.rr.com

Thanks

Dean from SI ny
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Ray Montee · From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)

I realize a considerable amount of time and expertise has gone into the construction of these NOTE charts that a couple of you fellows have engineered......BUT....

Are you into music to rewrite the book? Generate chord charts? or what? or RATHER, play steel guitar and/or beautiful music?

REGARDLESS of what key you're playing in, but lets say, it's gonna be "F" on the 5th fret in c6th tuning: You start at fret five; go up five to Bflat; up two more to C/C7th and back to F on the fifth fret. You've now hit the three major chords that will be used in that specific key. WHO CARES, what notes are on what string on what fret?

Now, if it's one of those Merle Haggard tunes, you'll have to consider a possible 'verse' or whatever....... From that fifth fret position, drop down three frets to "D"; go up to the seventh fret or "G"; and on up to twelf fret or C/C7...then back to "F" at the fifth fret. Now you've played the gist of just about every country song ever written/played. For a Fmin, I think it is, go up to the 8th fret on strings 1,2,3,& 5. OR, stay at the fifth fret on the same strings for a Dmin. or whatever.

I've NEVER paid any attention to what NOTES are played or called. Trying to get a new student to memorize that kind of stuff is enough to scare any newbie out of the room. By using that same position plan, you can go into just about any band and play just about any tune they throw your way. THAT IS, unless it's an olde GLEN CAMPBELL song, pretty as they were, or Hawaiian tune....... But start at the beginning first, and worry about Doo=Wah pedals later.

Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Well I have to print your reply out and give it a great study one sentence at a time. I agree with you on knowing notes. On a piano it was and is pretty simple to me. However, and even though I have been playing a standard guitar since I was around 16, I never learned the notes of a guitar, I just played rythem (chords) all of my life just to have fun and make myself happy.

At about 58 and don't ask me why, I started to learn the notes of a guitar! I know less now at 60 then I knew at 58! Now that I am attempting to learn the steel and finding out that there are so many ways of tuning I am more confused then ever. Further knowing now that there are not only the old 6 sting guitars but now there are 6, 8 10 and 12 string steels! WOW! more then I can comprehend at this point. lolol

But I will stick with the old 6 string steel that my mother bought in the mid 50's which she just gave me a few weeks ago and attempt to learn at least a song or two. After she bought the guitar, living in Shelby Montana then a very very small town and no one gave lessons at that time anywhere close, she finally gave up but at least she kept the guitar and now I got it! So at least want to be able to learn and play something with it. That will make her happy I'm sure.

It will really make me happy! and I will learn at least 1 song! then hopefully it will be 2, 3 and 4

But first I will print your reply out, I'm sure your telling me something about 7ths and that is what Im trying to get in my head now, knowing the major and minor chords on the steel! So I have gained a little in 3 weeks anyway.

Dean from S.I. NY
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Jim Mitchell · From: Phily,Pennsylvania, USA

I am new at this also
here is the chart I made
I have been
playing guitar since I was 13 now 60 trying the STEEL

I think this is a better chart the other one was for 4 pedals

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Dean Salisbury · From: New York, USA

Thanks for posting the chart. I have printed it out and added it to my binder. I am not yet playing a pedal so help this chart will help those who play the pedal steel.

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Will Houston · From: Tempe, Az

Hey Ray, where does the c7 come from on the 12 fret? Is that if your using the c6\a7 tuning? or I'm I way off on what your trying to get across here? Why is it c\c7 at the 12 fret? Since its so easy to switch from c6 to c6\a7, I like to use both tunings. Will

Ray Montee · From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)

I'm not a real musician.......okay, so I can't converse with you in technical musician talk.

But normally, after playing the F position, quite often the next move is to the Bflat position. From Bflat, the country tunes will often either take you back to F thence up to C; or, move you directly to C position from the Bflat spot.

Now, for whatever reason, who ever invented music, they usually play a C7th chord for at least two strokes PRIOR to returning back down to the originating chord of F. I'm sure they had a very good reason for doing this and far be it from me to doubt their intentions for even a nanno second.

If you pay attention closely, to the olde Ray Price stuff, you can hear that BASS player leading you on the steel, into virtually everyone of those chord changes. It has nothing to do with the C6th tuning with the A7th tuning on the bottom three strings. Don't go mixing up apples and oranges, okay.

I sincerely hope this non-technical talk will lead you thro' what I was attempting to explain. Okay?

Mark Roeder · From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

That site Gary suggested (2nd post) is a great tool. Especially if you want to see how different tunings effect how each chord is formed. Thanks for the tip.Mark

Andy Volk · From: Boston, MA

THe Jerry Byrd instructional video comes with a book of tab that includes charts for all the key C6th tuning chord forms.

http://www.scottysmusic.com/byrdvideo.htm

Steve Ahola · From: Concord, California

Thanks to everyone for posting all of the charts and links! For me it is very important to learn where all of the notes in a chord are on the fretboard so I am not limited to just the first position (like the 9th fret for an A6 chord). I assume that everybody here is using the slant positions and getting pedal steel effects by pulling up on the strings behind the bar.

Long time reader, first time poster

Steve Ahola

Roger Palmer · From: Rossendale, UK

Ive not been able to find any effective string pulls behind the bar in the C6th tuning. Occasionally I will pull the string to get a 7th sound but very rarely. I would be keen to hear from anyone who uses string pulls with C6th though.......in case Ive missed a trick here

Ray Shakeshaft · From: Kidderminster, Worcs, UK.

I largely agree with my namesake, the other Ray, and I am a tiny fraction up from the real beginner level but I found that John Ely's site was a godsend. http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/chordlocator/generic.php

Get that second string in your head as Ray suggests then remember the interval differences between the strings are 4-3-2-3-4. (A note on the first string can also be found 4 frets up on the 2nd string and 3 frets up on the 3rd string - well you get the idea and those numbers are easy to remember)

Learn a few two note slants (again using John Ely's site) and that should get you playing relatively easy songs then as you want to increase the chord vocabulary tackle more difficult songs.(Learning chords in isolation is almost a waste of time) There are thousands of free song charts around (Check out the uke websites or Ralph Patt's website for jazz standards).

Steve Ahola · From: Concord, California

Roy Thomson · From: Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada

I have a Course for 6 string C6th lap steel
E--C--A--G--E--C HIGH TO LOW. I came out with
it last year and it covers in simple terms with
Tab and matching CD any situation which you are
likely to encounter...and more.

SHORTCUTS TO CHORD LOCATION
Find and play chords instantly
for C6th Lap Steel Guitar

Check my ClicTab Web Page or email me for
particulars.

Roy
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Anthony Locke · From: Texas, USA

I looked at that thing a long time ago and couldn't make any sense out of it. One thing I did notice on this post is the reference to A#. It's typically referred to as Bb. It's the same note of course, but some musicians will give you the stink eye if you call out a tune in A#. Perhaps this chord finder is the same way? Hope this helps Smile

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