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Topic: Questions About "Bar Slants" |
William Litaker
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 10:53 am |
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| I had several e-mails about the bar slant on A Way To Survive where it goes from the 1 chord to the 5 chord. The first one is about "34" on the video. I think Mr. Emmons slants from the 8th fret on string #8 to the 10th fret and back. I was doing that before I realized that me or anybody else don't hear as good as he does and I was missing it half the time. So for me I raised the 8th string with my knee lever and slanted the bar only one fret. That works for me better and you are not slanting so far. I hope that helps........William |
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b0b
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 11:07 am
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Thanks for the good starter, Bill.
I often combine a pedal or lever with a bar slant to get the more radical gliss effects. Your use of the F lever is one example. I also use a slant with the Eb lever to get the effect of lowering the 8th string E to D.
Paul Franklin popularized the first string raise F# to G# for unison licks with the 3rd string. You also hear this effect in recent Lloyd Green recordings, but Lloyd doesn't have that change! Lloyd does, however, raise his first string to G, and from there it's a simple forward slant to get the unison sound with the G# string.
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William Litaker
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Kannapolis, North Carolina, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 11:48 am
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| Good stuff bob. Are you sure Mr. Green slants the bar or pulls the 1st string with his finger behind the bar? I don't know, jusk asking. I know when I raise the 1st string a half step I sometimes will pull it with my finger.......William |
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William Litaker
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Kannapolis, North Carolina, USA (deceased)
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 12:06 pm
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| I remember I was doing a house gig in South Carolina. One night I was playing and went to lower my E's and the lever had fell off and was laying on the stage under my guitar. I had to play about 3/4's of a set like that. You talk about bar slants!! I learned a lot of new stuff that set! I am telling you ,any lever but that one......please! William |
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 2:07 pm
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Bar slants used to be de rigeur before knee levers raised their lovely heads. 
At ISGC years ago I was sitting behind a guitar that was too tall for me and I couldn't reach the levers, so I was playing with pedals and doing forward and reverse slants to get the notes. Al Petty walked by, looked at me, then leaned over and said quietly "Herb, you're showing your age." 
I took it as a high compliment from Al.
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Jim Park
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Carson City, Nv
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 2:33 pm
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Jim
It's a pretty simple maneuver, really. The song is in Bb, and Buddy looks to be hitting s.3 and s.5 at f.10, then s.6 at f.11 for the quick slant, and finally resolving the chord on s.6 to f.10.
At least that's how I just played it from the way it looked on the vid. I was also at the show when it was taped.
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Jim Park
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Carson City, Nv
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 2:48 pm re: bar slants
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Thanks Herb!!! The resources on this Forum are UNBELIEVABLE !!!! you guys that take the time to respond to posts really make this thing go!!!
Jim |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 3:52 pm
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I'm pretty sure that C6 ending slant Buddy plays on "I love you just because" is actually all done with the tip of the bar at the 10th fret, strings 7 & 9
First a forward slant on string 9, then straight up, then backward, like this:
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7--10--10--10--
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9--11--10--9---
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By the way, interesting comments about possible positions for Lloyd Green's unison notes. I always wondered. My best guess was string 4 with C pedal matching open string 1.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 4:03 pm
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John
I just replayed it and I think you're right. It's the same notes as my version, but an 8v lower.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 5:39 pm
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| William Litaker wrote: |
| Good stuff bob. Are you sure Mr. Green slants the bar or pulls the 1st string with his finger behind the bar? I don't know, jusk asking. I know when I raise the 1st string a half step I sometimes will pull it with my finger.......William |
I've never seen Lloyd pull the string with his fingers, but I've seen Jeff Newman do that a lot. I could never do it accurately. I tried for years, then just gave up.
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
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Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 7:17 pm
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I used to do a first string half-step raise by pulling it with my finger and did that for quite a few years, but it's a practice that I eventually stopped ... while doing a first string raise like that my string broke during the pull and gave me a pretty good laceration.
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 8:25 pm
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Snow cancelled my gig last night. Tonight still snowing but we played to about half crowd. I did a lot of bar slants tonight. One of them was intentional, but it didn't work too well. 
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William Litaker
From:
Kannapolis, North Carolina, USA (deceased)
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Posted 31 Jan 2010 10:25 am
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| Hey Jim , If you were playing an Emmons that would not have happened! (lol) |
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